Armando: players take on Tua
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Fitz was better as a reliever not a full time starter.
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the asks were completely different of the quarterbacks bro. I don’t think tannnehill executed better than Tua, he had a completely different ask of him.
l think Tuas deep ball accuracy is light years ahead of tannnehills at the same point but tannnehill worked the boundary better.
and the Dolphins on Tannnehill rookie team was actually pretty nice if I recall correctly
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I will take this:
Fitz won 4 games, 3 of which were against the two worst teams in the league the Jets twice and the Jags, threw for less than 200 yards on two of those occasions. His one truly impressive game was the first half versus SF. He threw three ints and no TDs week 1 versus the Pats, he threw 0 TDs again versus the seahawks and two ints against one of the worst D's in the league, who were giving up points everywhere at that stage of the season. He came on in the Denver game to "save us" and promptly threw one of the worst red zone ints you'll see with the game on the line at the end. Comes off the bench against LV and does well, but let's not make that some super amazing comeback, we were 3 pts down, he got us a field goal, then dumped the ball off to Gaskin on a check down who beats a couple of players for a 50 yd score, he had no clue where the ball was going to Hollins, he admitted so himself, for the facemask play.
It was a typical Fitz season in many ways, up and down, he takes chances that's his game, he's a career .500 QB and we would probably have gone 8-8 had we stuck with him. I find it hard to believe we would have won the Cards game or even the Pats game with him under center, teams like the Bengals, Rams and Chargers may have been given more hope because he is way less careful with the ball, evidence the fact that he threw more ints than Tua in less starts !
You're take is revisionist nonsense tbh, based on zero factual evidence. We wouldn't have been in the playoffs if Fitz had been the starter all year, we wouldn't have won that Bills game if he had been available and starting. There is zero evidence to back up any of those claims from Fitz history and displays this season, which were once again up and down.
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As a Dolphins fan, if I was also one of the team reporters I would never disclose this information. If anything, I'd probably try to talk the player down from thinking that way. I'd be the worst team reporter ever, but I'd be loyal. It doesn't help Tua and it doesn't help this organization at the draft. That being said, can we really say Armando is a true Dolphins fan? 
We dont disagree on much, but one of the only issues i have when people keep bringing up Josh Allen is this. Allen needs to be compared more to Lamar Jackson than Tua. Allen and Tua are so far different in the make-up of a QB that they shouldn't really ever be in comparison scenario's. When Allen was drafted, most people said he couldnt hit the broad side of the barn from 10 yards away. Allen was 100% potential from the point they picked him,..the cannon and the wheels, but would it all come together for him. I think with Tua its more like. Can we put it all together around Tua? Give him help he'll be elite.
Its not bad that Tua's elite trait is accuracy and decision making, but he was never drafted to be a project/potential type QB
I'm still all about Fitz being our John Smoltz or Eck. **** it, lets do it.
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hoops
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you mean nice with hartline and Davon Bess? Or when Mike Wallace showed up and half assed it or couldn’t locate the football or dropped the damn thing. You guys are nuts man.
that deep ball tannehill stuff was always overblown.
as for the qb ask from an offense stand point tanny was asked to do a ton more
but this thread isn’t about tannehill even though folks want to take shots at him that aren’t necessary or accurate
that kid was getting hit rush 3 drop 8 before his back foot could hit although maybe that was every year after I can’t recall there was so many of them
Tua has no arm strength???
Tua did fine in 2020 under the circumstances .
These remarks are so much like Ryan Tannehill's 2012, 2013, 2014 seasons.
Tua's long ball is the lack of confidence playing in the pro's after half of his 2019 season cut short, no mini camp, no preseason, and not starting 2020 season while learning his new offense all while his body was heeling from a major rare injury.
hoops
Tua time!
that comp for Allen doesn’t work anymore in Lamar Jackson. Prior years he was a one read and take off with it qb. Not this year. And it directly correlates to his play level going up separate from the accuracy strides mostly mechanics based.
josh Allen stands in the pocket and goes thru reads now and knows that his arm can get him out of trouble when he’s a little late.
And his offensive line is giving him quite a bit of time to go through his progressions.
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Tua time!
yeah they play well too...sure
Yeah but from a drafting rhetoric, you would look at them almost from a comparison stand point from the branching and development of their careers. Josh Allen isnt going to convince anyone that he has Lamar Jacksons running back moves, but everyone knew he was highly athletic. Also both with the cannon. They were both drafted for their high ceilings/low floor, not necessarily what they could show rookie year. You would expect a QB with the higher floor to have better stats from get go, especially when his job is taking care of the ball for a playoff caliber team.
This weekend maybe this thread will die, when the games start again, maybe.