John Beck debates are like genital warts.
I'm sure that John would be impressed by your tasteful analogy.
John Beck debates are like genital warts.
Now please state exactly how the circumstances during that competition was any different for the 3 QB's involved. That is the case you cannot make.This "chance" you are speaking of came before the first preseason game. It came while the offense was being put in. And during this chance the quote from Sparano was that they were in a dead heat still with no separation before the pickup of Penny.
Nice one. Repeat what I already said as if it adds weight to your argument. Obvious much ?After Penny came on board, the competition was over.
Gee Wally, you read my post. Did I say that ? Or are you just making stuff up and arguing with yourself ? (again to try to add weight to your unmarketable case ?)Are you saying that competitions at ANY position let alone the hardest on the field should be decided in just 3 weeks of camp and preseason games should not be also used?
That idea is ridiculous.
Anyone with an open mind (='s anyone without a mancrush on Beck) could see in the preseason games that simply did not have the poise (it factor) that Henne did.Anyone with an open mind knows that Beck was railroaded with not much if any chance to prove himself on the field.
Yes, it was obvious the way this team imploded last year due to getting rid of Beck that you are 100% correct.And as fans we could pay the price with a weaker team on the field as we watch our offense struggle to move the ball while Beck is lighting it up in Baltimore.
What facts have you quoted to represent Beck never got an equal shot ? WHere is the disparity in reps ? Where are the facts of disparity in not getting equal time with the 1st team ? What facts ?So no one is lying. You are simply ignoring the facts.
Everyone keeps talking about Atlanta's offense, but Atlanta's starting defense got clobbered against Baltimore's 2nd/3rd string offense in the first half of tonight's game.. And it was from John Beck at QB.. On the opening drive they had 91 yards on them for a TD, and more good drives on them in the 1st half early in the game with another TD.
http://life.atlantafalcons.com/index.php?showtopic=3859433
^^ Look how much Atlanta fans are panicking regarding their sieve defense.
What do you say about that ?
Wow...rarely has there ever been a player who has done so little for a team receive so much love and attention.
Dudes, just got finished browsing that site and they seem to unanimously agree that they should beat us (porous D or no).
http://life.atlantafalcons.com/index.php?showtopic=3859742
Now please state exactly how the circumstances during that competition was any different for the 3 QB's involved. That is the case you cannot make.
Nice one. Repeat what I already said as if it adds weight to your argument. Obvious much ?
Gee Wally, you read my post. Did I say that ? Or are you just making stuff up and arguing with yourself ? (again to try to add weight to your unmarketable case ?)
By the way are you really positive that they only had 3 weeks to look at the QB's in question ?
Anyone with an open mind (='s anyone without a mancrush on Beck) could see in the preseason games that simply did not have the poise (it factor) that Henne did.
Or is having an open mind only equivalent to agreeing with your opinion ?
Yes, it was obvious the way this team imploded last year due to getting rid of Beck that you are 100% correct.
Here is what is so funny. You point the finger at Henne and at Beck trying to demonstrate some huge difference. Never taking into account there are 4 different teams involved. But I guess if you actually took everything into consideration maybe your "open mindedness"(='s Without Beck gloom and doom for Miami) might suffer irreparable damage.
What facts have you quoted to represent Beck never got an equal shot ? WHere is the disparity in reps ? Where are the facts of disparity in not getting equal time with the 1st team ? What facts ?
All I see is opinion backed up by hyperbole.
Wow your ability to read without understanding is amazing.
Do you even remember what happened after Penny was signed or WHEN he was signed? Do you also remember that right before Penny was signed, Sparano was quoted saying that the QB battle was STILL a dead heat? No separation according to Sparano.
Penny was signed right before the first preseason game. In that game, Beck played one qtr with the first team OL against the first team defense while Henne played 2 QTRs behind the first team OL AGAINST the second team defense. Beck was mostly handing off and had like 7 passes thrown. Henne playing much more and throwing a lot more putting larger numbers against the second team defense as should be expected. So, no real separation between the two there either. Their QB ratings were about the same.
Are you with me? The very next week the ONLY two QBs getting reps in practice were Henne and Penny. And it stayed that way the rest of the way through the preseason (3 more games in case you can't count)
So, tell me how the competition ends after one uneventful preseason game but, you somehow want everyone to believe that there was a real competition.
Some people say that preseason doesn't mean much. The truth is practice reps actually mean less than preseason GAME reps. You can tell much more about a QB when he plays against an opposing defense than when he plays in practice against a defense that knows all of the plays. Beck got all of ONE Qtr and a little bit more of play in 4 games. Henne played at least 8-10 QTRs in preseason. How can anyone claim an equal amount of reps in that case? you simply can't.
So, tell me how you can call it a competition when it was clearly over 4 weeks before the season even started and maybe 2 weeks after the offense was put in (when all 3 QBs were simply learning and not performing at peak levels.
There were competitions going on all over the field at just about every other position. But, you have to be drinking the BP kool aid to think that a rookie QB who wasn't performing too well himself in practice ascended over McCown and Beck that much in just a couple of days when right before that Tony stated that it was a dead heat between the three.
But, keep drinking the Parcells kool aid. It's obvious you like it. But, as for me I will judge each move he makes good and bad and judge them on their individual merits.
The handling of our QB situation was clearly poorly handled. I just hope that Beck doesn't come back to haunt us AND that Henne finally develops into what Parcells obviously thought he already was last preseason after just one game.
As of right now Beck looks much better in his development than either Henne or White.
But, I suppose you will argue that as well in spite of the huge disparity in what we have seen with our own eyes.
Did you even see the Ravens game? Beck looked lights out. Those throws were sharp, crisp and right on the money. His 100 plus QB rating for the game would have been much better if not for a dropped TD and at least two dropped perfect passes of over 30 yards each.
Meanwhile in Miami we are wondering if White or Henne will be our QB of the future.
:boohoo:
Please.... John Beck played lights out in the 4th pre-season game? Ooooooooohhhh...... wooooooowwww.... LMFAO!
Please.... John Beck played lights out in the 4th pre-season game? Ooooooooohhhh...... wooooooowwww.... LMFAO!
Our offense hasn't struggled moving the ball wtf?? And...
No... Sparano said if he had to pick a QB had Pennington not came along Chad Henne would have started the season as the #1 QB. Go find the link, cause its there but yea you remember only what you want. And...
I'll be waiting on another classic John Beck fumble gif and there will be one ya know why???? Cause.....
(sings) He's got all kinds of tiiiimmmeee.... All kinds of time. :)