Re: Phins offer pick for Ramsey
Originally posted by phunwin
He's cheap, he's young, he's talented, and he can step in immediately as the starter (unlike Rivers, Henson or Losman). I saw Ramsey play enough last year to believe that he's going to be a very good NFL QB. [/B]
You sir hit the nail right on the head as to why I think Ramsey is the best option for Miami.
First off, he IS talented. As I used before, you don't pass for almost 300 yards against a d@mn good Tennessee defense by accident or by fluke. The guy has a gun for a arm, and can read a defense farily well. Is he a top notch QB NOW? Of course not, but at 24 there is still PLENTY of room to grow and flourish in to one. At this point, I think the guy is an All-Pro waiting to happen in the right system.
Secondly, he CAN immediately start, thus saving the Dolphins the cap space it would cost to bring in a vet such as Brunell or Gannon. This guy already got his trial by fire and proved that he can at least hold up to the pressure of the NFL game. Our other options each have flaws. Rivers has issues with his delivery that are going to take more than one training camp to remedy.. Henson hasn't played a down of football since 2000. Wanna see a prime example of how much of an impact four years away from the game can have on a player?? Two words.. Chad Hutchison. Ricky Ray's agent has already stated that he's at LEAST two years away from being ready to produce on the NFL level and Losman is one who too is going to have to grow in to the NFL game.
Also, heres another point. Having a rookie QB getting his baptism by fire to the NFL ultimately puts a hell of a lot more pressure on the RB to produce, where as an established name, who can dump the ball off and make the plays needed puts less pressure on the back. I know Ricky has the ability to do so, but do you honestly want another season of Ricky being forced to carry the rock 35-40 times a game, thus putting a physical wear and tear on him that could ultimately shorten his career?
To summarize, I have no doubt in my mind that Henson, Rivers, Losman and Ray may very well develop in to good or even great NFL QBs.. However, to give up a first rounder for Ramsey isn't as perposterous as it sounds. By trading for him, the Dolphins kill two birds with one stone.. They get their established QB AND they get a guy with NFL starting experience who has proven he can play at the NFL level. Also, to those of you complaining about not having a 1st rounder the last two seasons, lest not forget who we acquired with that pick.. If given the opportunity to take those two first rounders back for Williams, I STILL make the deal 100 times out of 100.
Also, lets take a look at the last decade of Dolphin first rounders. Not exactly a legacy of greatness left behind, although some did develop in to nice pros..
2001-- Jamar Fletcher (still could develop in to something nice, so I won't pass judgement)
1998-- John Avery (Nuff said)
1997-- Yatil Green
1996-- Daryl Gardener (He had a few solid years for Miami, has been a nomad since)
1995 -- Billy Milner (Ugh.. although he did land us a pretty good player in Drayton later on)
1994-- Tim Bowens (No complaints here)
1993 -- OJ McDuffie (Or here)
1992-- Troy Vincent and Marco Coleman (Or here)
1991-- Randall Hill (Hill had a few solid years, nothing spectacular.)
Regardless of our first round woes of past, also remember that if the Phins DO get a first rounder for Wally, the team will then be able to use that pick to fill holes at other positions, maybe landing that coveted #2 WR, or even possibly an upgrade at the OL (Carey)..
So, in conclusion, by trading for Ramsey, the Dolphins accomplish everything they have set out to this post-season. They get their young starter, whose cap friendly contract will allow Miami to make other moves, they can use any draft picks to fill other holes and they get a QB who has an upside of an All-Pro that we all so desperately seem to want.
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