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Do we honestly believe that IF AJ is starting against Denver and Saban has watched his QB throw 4 INT's with a capable veteran backup who knows the offense better and is just dying to get into the game that Saban will leave him in there to throw a 5th?

AJ will either be better than last season or on the bench. 5 INT's against Denver or any other team for that matter will never happen.
 
I would like our chances MUCH better if we had beaten Denver last year. That's one of my sweetest theories, anti-revenge at home after defeating the same team on the road. It's especially awesome for first half wagering. A few years ago I salivated for months when we were placed in an immediate anti-revenge home situation vs. Seattle after defeating them in the playoffs in Seattle the year before. That home opener basically wasn't gambling. Something like 20-0 right out of the box.

As someone else posted in this thread, beware of underestimating Denver. They are a smart team that has stockpiled some impressive personnel. I would like the opener more if we were facing a less cerebral team.

Last year we were underdogs by about 10 and lost by 3. I realize it's a different coach and regime, but history has taught me not to like the chances of the team that lost a close one like that. Winning inspires winning and vice-versa. This time we'll be underdogs by 3 or 4 and probably lose by about the margin of last year's projection, in the 7 to 10 range.

The mainstream media simply does a pathetic job of understanding and analyzing things like that. A few nights ago I heard John Thompson, the old Georgetown coach, emphasize after Memphis' close loss to Phoenix in game two that the loss almost didn't matter, because now Memphis had the confidence they could beat Phoenix. My friends and I sitting together at the Caesar's Palace sportsbook burst into immediate laughter. We've been here long enough to understand if a team exceeds expectations it better pull off the outright win, otherwise the next outing will invariably deviate toward the norm. In this case, sure enough, that meant a 110-90 Phoenix rout in game three.
 
Awsi Dooger said:
I would like our chances MUCH better if we had beaten Denver last year. That's one of my sweetest theories, anti-revenge at home after defeating the same team on the road. It's especially awesome for first half wagering. A few years ago I salivated for months when we were placed in an immediate anti-revenge home situation vs. Seattle after defeating them in the playoffs in Seattle the year before. That home opener basically wasn't gambling. Something like 20-0 right out of the box.

As someone else posted in this thread, beware of underestimating Denver. They are a smart team that has stockpiled some impressive personnel. I would like the opener more if we were facing a less cerebral team.

Last year we were underdogs by about 10 and lost by 3. I realize it's a different coach and regime, but history has taught me not to like the chances of the team that lost a close one like that. Winning inspires winning and vice-versa. This time we'll be underdogs by 3 or 4 and probably lose by about the margin of last year's projection, in the 7 to 10 range.

The mainstream media simply does a pathetic job of understanding and analyzing things like that. A few nights ago I heard John Thompson, the old Georgetown coach, emphasize after Memphis' close loss to Phoenix in game two that the loss almost didn't matter, because now Memphis had the confidence they could beat Phoenix. My friends and I sitting together at the Caesar's Palace sportsbook burst into immediate laughter. We've been here long enough to understand if a team exceeds expectations it better pull off the outright win, otherwise the next outing will invariably deviate toward the norm. In this case, sure enough, that meant a 110-90 Phoenix rout in game three.
From a gambling perspective, I can understand what you're saying especially as someone who gambles in casinos and on certain book sites. But I think theres also things like the personel changes that need to be factored in.

They took steps back all over the place. They took on a bunch of underachieving Dl from cleveland no less, and jetisoned their own, which at the very least, helped them make the playoffs. They added Ian gold so while they probably have the best set of LBs in the league, the secondary isnt anything to brag about in pass coverage even with crappy Aj throwing the ball. Factor in a draft where they reached on every pick and its still a bunch of rookie DBs that are gonna be expected to contributed and that D will likely be a mess vs the pass but should be ok vs the run.

Offensively, they could have some success running the ball, Shanny's teams usually do, but you wonder how well a finesse run team like there's will stack up vs a D thats expected to be very physical and improved both depth and starting personel.

All in all i expect an ugly slugfest between 2 teams led by awful qbs.
 
I live in donkey land and can't wait for the game. Most of my co-workers are donkey fans and I will shove it in their faces when we destroy their team on opening day.

Dolphins 28
Donkeys 13
 
I will be there on what will be the most emotional day since Marino's number was retired being a new era, energetic new coach, and the 4 year mark of the 9/11 attacks on our great country. I can't wait.
 
Awsi Dooger said:
I would like our chances MUCH better if we had beaten Denver last year. That's one of my sweetest theories, anti-revenge at home after defeating the same team on the road. It's especially awesome for first half wagering. A few years ago I salivated for months when we were placed in an immediate anti-revenge home situation vs. Seattle after defeating them in the playoffs in Seattle the year before. That home opener basically wasn't gambling. Something like 20-0 right out of the box.

As someone else posted in this thread, beware of underestimating Denver. They are a smart team that has stockpiled some impressive personnel. I would like the opener more if we were facing a less cerebral team.

Last year we were underdogs by about 10 and lost by 3. I realize it's a different coach and regime, but history has taught me not to like the chances of the team that lost a close one like that. Winning inspires winning and vice-versa. This time we'll be underdogs by 3 or 4 and probably lose by about the margin of last year's projection, in the 7 to 10 range.

The mainstream media simply does a pathetic job of understanding and analyzing things like that. A few nights ago I heard John Thompson, the old Georgetown coach, emphasize after Memphis' close loss to Phoenix in game two that the loss almost didn't matter, because now Memphis had the confidence they could beat Phoenix. My friends and I sitting together at the Caesar's Palace sportsbook burst into immediate laughter. We've been here long enough to understand if a team exceeds expectations it better pull off the outright win, otherwise the next outing will invariably deviate toward the norm. In this case, sure enough, that meant a 110-90 Phoenix rout in game three.


One thing to consider though is that the entire Phins org is changed. Just impossible to correlate last year and this year given so much change. Statistically, probably reasonable to assume that, w/ the changes, we will be an org growing and not able to gel and win. But.....we could also just as easily be an org trying to prove itself to it's new coach..and wind up be an overachieving bunch and stun the world. Who really knows.... :confused2
 
Yeah its going to be tough to defend a new coach. But if Ronnie Brown is stopped early and often, we can feed on AJ.

You could make the same argument for us and could be true. However, I will say this, that it takes us a while for us to be 1 dimensional. Look for the Broncos to use several bootlegs and play actions to attack down the field. By making the Phins play more of the field, the Broncos run game will strive.

Dolphins should come out with AJ gunning. Throw us off.

Its going to be a good one, as it always is...
 
larfo2224 said:
I live in donkey land and can't wait for the game. Most of my co-workers are donkey fans and I will shove it in their faces when we destroy their team on opening day.

Dolphins 28
Donkeys 13

Word I live in Colorado Springs too!! I hope we crush them Donkeys so I can gloat to all the locals here. Havent been able to do that since we beat them back in 2002.
 
PhinDude88 said:
I think that the Broncos will be scared to death because they wont know what to prepare for.

Absolutely!!!.... I think our entire scheduele will be up in arms because they have no idea what saban and Linehan are capable of together.... you heard it from beli-chick, he & his father were hoping that he would go to the NFC. This year we have the advantage that no one will know, until really the end of the season, how to prep for us. Denver has the worst of it they don't even have the previous games to look at.... only preseason....:cooldude: ...I LOVE IT!!!!!!:D
 
Krie30511 said:
Absolutely!!!.... I think our entire scheduele will be up in arms because they have no idea what saban and Linehan are capable of together.... you heard it from beli-chick, he & his father were hoping that he would go to the NFC. This year we have the advantage that no one will know, until really the end of the season, how to prep for us. Denver has the worst of it they don't even have the previous games to look at.... only preseason....:cooldude: ...I LOVE IT!!!!!!:D

What you say holds weight, but seriously, its not going to have that BIG of an effect from the outcome of the game. If that were the case, then Spurrior or Butch Davis would have been winners their first 3 games in their Rookie year. Linehan (sp?) has been an OC for years. We can get some film of that. We can also get a little feel benieth the vanilla plays in the preseason. One this is for sure, Saban wants to see AJ and Gus perform. So i'm sure there will be some, not a lot, but some legitness in his play calling in preseason.
 
OrangeCrush said:
What you say holds weight, but seriously, its not going to have that BIG of an effect from the outcome of the game. If that were the case, then Spurrior or Butch Davis would have been winners their first 3 games in their Rookie year. Linehan (sp?) has been an OC for years. We can get some film of that. We can also get a little feel benieth the vanilla plays in the preseason. One this is for sure, Saban wants to see AJ and Gus perform. So i'm sure there will be some, not a lot, but some legitness in his play calling in preseason.

The point i wanted to make here is... Linehan has never had these players play for him before... I fully expect him to draw up plays to our players strengths... meaning... no one, I MEAN NO ONE, will be able to figure out what he's going to do.... you can get film from Linehans offense & even sabans offense and I'm sure you will similarities of the two but in no way will it be the same.... and also... you mention Gus and AJ... these players will most likely play dfferently in the new system and new players....so that is also an unknown....come sept. 11th. I don't believe Denver will have firm grasp of what we're doing down here....
 
BBsuck said:
Ear

Jp losman career (5 passes 3 completions 1 INT) And the bills are better off than us WHY??? Can't wait:evil:

The Bills are better because our DBs, WR's, RB's, LB's, and special teams are better.

Qb's a wash.

oh, and

Brett Farve Rookie season:

5 passes 0 completions 2 INT's.
 
PhinDude88 said:
I think that the Broncos will be scared to death because they wont know what to prepare for.


they have 5 preseason games to try and decipher it
 
bryancox51fan said:
Who is their starting RB anyway,they will need them that day


It will be Tatum Bell. When both of our starting DTs were out of the game, he ran all over us last season. I want to see what he can do when our D is healthy. I can't wait. :evil:
 
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