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Do The Fins Really Have The Most Boring Qb In The Nfl????
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You guys are still going!?! Lol just agree to disagree no one is budging on how they feel, especially in the off season
Hoping for the best Dolphin team we’ve seen in a long time in 2018
Hoping for the best Dolphin team we’ve seen in a long time in 2018
LOL. I suppose if I were unable to understand the play of the field, I'd think the same thing.
So who's available and better?
Actually, my interpretation is not that different but involves other positions:
Baseline: 2016 with a low 20s ranked OL Tannehill had the 2nd or 3rd most accurate long ball passer and 4th most accurate 15+yd passer. From that rare clean pocket, he had the 4th lowest QBR.
What would have occurred over the past 2-3 years previously had the OL been even mediocre?
Well as a case in point, while Tannehill made Bess look good and got Harline and Clay paid for performing at levels they never replicated, frrom '13-'15 he actually won 4 more games than did Matt Ryan despite him having Roddy White in his prime, Julio, arguably the best wideout in the league and for one of those years, the GOAT TE.
...and that's with a marginally better OL and a marginally better HC! So if you think Ryan is a decent to good QB, consider what Tannehill accomplished with which he had to work with and by association, imagine what he could have done with Matty not-so-Ice's resources! And then flashing forward, imagine if Tannehill had an OC like Kyle Shanahan instead of Lazar who is sucking in Cinci, Sherman and Dabol?
So, the team well might have made the post seasons with at least a mediocre OL instead of a putrid one, better coaching all around and a better receiving core instead of Harline, Bess and Mike ****ing Wallace who could not run a decent route to save his live, never fought for jump balls and sulked when he didn't get his way.
You guys really need some new material.
To be fair, it's really difficult to draw a comparison to Tannehill with any QB. I've said it before and will again: There is no NFL QB who has had a trajectory to the NFL like him. None.
Opinions (obviously) vary about both his performance and potential, but I think it's pretty clear that his work ethic and toughness are top notch, and he's been poorly supported through most of his career. He's overcome a ****-ton of adversity. I keep thinking that David Carr is somewhere out there, watching his career, and having horrible flashbacks.
While a typical QB doesn't have a breakout at age 30 or above, I don't think Tannehill or his circumstances have been even remotely typical.
Opinions (obviously) vary about both his performance and potential, but I think it's pretty clear that his work ethic and toughness are top notch, and he's been poorly supported through most of his career. He's overcome a ****-ton of adversity. I keep thinking that David Carr is somewhere out there, watching his career, and having horrible flashbacks.
While a typical QB doesn't have a breakout at age 30 or above, I don't think Tannehill or his circumstances have been even remotely typical.
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No one is available. Again. Because we have RT under a contract that balloons come 2019, we haven’t drafted even a true mid round development QB since RT arrived, and have again passed in free agency.
So we bank on 30 year old RT who hasn’t played a real game come Sep in 20 months, Osweiller who will make Matt Moore look like an all pro and Fales (what an appropriate name).
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Interesting factoid is the Miami Dolphins had the 29th ranked offensive line in 2017. Is this why Cutler and Moore sucked? How much of a contributing factor was it in their suckage? If RT had played all of 2017 with this line play that allowed a staggering 153 QB pressures, how many more sacks would he have taken and how would the offense have produced? Because guess what, that line ranking is one of the worst for Miami since RT got to the league.
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Would help if you read the article as the OL were ranked 6th in terms of pass blocking, it was their run blocking that brought their overall ranking down.
You really should stop trying to post statistics unless you bother to research them a bit. Here is a ranking of last year's OLs:
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-offensive-lines-from-the-2017-nfl-season
This is from the comments about the Dolphins OL:
What you refer to as a "staggering 153 QB pressures" they refer to as "just 153 total pressures". LOL. They also provide the context of all the other teams. You might want to have a read. But, thanks for demonstrating once again your lack of any real knowledge about the rest of the league.
Then there is this little tidbit:
Oops.
LOL. There lack of effort to understand what is really happening by some posters is unbelievable.
But not as bad as the 32nd and 31st PFF ranked OLs in '14 and '15. Yet amazingly, Tannehill with his limited offensive assets still managed to win more games than Matt Ryan with his impressive go-tos.
Again, to reiterate, in 2016, despite yet another new offense and a still mediocre OL ranked in the low 20s, but certainly better than the previous years' #32 and #31, Tannehill went 8-5 with a 7-1 run and balling against AZ when Campbell cheap shotted him. Give him even a mediocre OL and that year Tannehill put up elite 20+ and 15+ yard accuracy and QBR from a clean pocket (that is if you consider top 5 to be "Elite.") Now imagine if he had at least a middle of the road OL AND a functional TE.
2017 has nothing to do with Tannehill- it's a specious deflection.... but granted, the #29th ranked OL still is an upgrade over those he was behind in 2 of his last 3 years.