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Dolphins blew it with passing on Herbert

Outdated old school thinking.
With modern college programs nowaday, qd come out of respectable conference, you know it right away in his first year playing.
RT, can't throw deep, no pocket presence, never change. Watson showed he can play once he started, did not tail off.
The three years rule for young qb is so 70s.
Guys coming out of college are more ready to come out and throw as rookies but that doesn't mean the usual period of adjustments and counter adjustments doesn't really apply. In fact, it means that there are more "mirages" in the first year or two, since a guy can come out with throwing ability and be ahead of the defenses against him for the moment, until they figure out his true tendencies. Let's look at some possible mirages recently.

Baker Mayfield - looked great as a rookie on a team that hadn't won a game in almost two years before he got his first win. Fell flat on his face in epic fashion as a sophomore, now the jury is still out as a power run scheme is limiting his exposure.
Lamar Jackson - MVP as a sophomore. Year 3, pretty lukewarm. Definite regression especially in throwing the ball. Of course, jury still out.
Carson Wentz - MVP candidate 2nd year, got injured. Did ok third year, got injured. Never found his groove 4th year. 5th year, benched.
Blake Bortles - great numbers 2nd year. Major questions in third year, eventually benched, backup.
RG3 - rookie of the year. Got injured. Came back and didn't play well once he couldn't depend on athleticism. Masked that he never threw that well out of the pocket to begin with.
Josh Freeman - great sophomore year. Horrible third year. Resurgence 4th year and immensely quick fall from grace afterwards.

Not listing Trubisky since there were still questions after sophomore year. Not listing guys like Winston, Mariota, Bradford, etc. that started out ok and just never got better. Not listing Mark Sanchez because his numbers were never really good even though his 3rd year was his first non-playoff year.

You can see pretty clearly a lot of guys look like they've arrived only to fall back. And of course others fail to ever progress from their rookie seasons. It's important to look critically at every QB individually because you can't just assume progression and regression.

It was much easier back in the day, with as hard as the transition was from college to the pros, that when a guy "got it" usually after a year or two of taking his lumps he was probably a keeper. Because it took a lot of ability just to be able to reach that point in the first place.
 
Outdated old school thinking.
With modern college programs nowaday, qd come out of respectable conference, you know it right away in his first year playing.
RT, can't throw deep, no pocket presence, never change. Watson showed he can play once he started, did not tail off.
The three years rule for young qb is so 70s.
This is just nonsense.
 
I am behind Tua when I really wasn't prior to draft...but yeah Herbert was the better choice form what we have seen
 
I am behind Tua when I really wasn't prior to draft...but yeah Herbert was the better choice form what we have seen
Some posters equate wins and losses with talent. All I know is Herbert is bigger, stronger, more accurate ( from what I've seen), better screen, and throws accurately on the run. Anyone watching this game tonight can see he's going to be a great QB in this league for a long time. Saying otherwise shows you know nothing about football.
 
I guess if anyone wants to know why the Chargers don't win more a play action pass on 3rd and 2 with a minute to go explains it well.
 
Some posters equate wins and losses with talent. All I know is Herbert is bigger, stronger, more accurate ( from what I've seen), better screen, and throws accurately on the run. Anyone watching this game tonight can see he's going to be a great QB in this league for a long time. Saying otherwise shows you know nothing about football.
He looked good on that sack on third and two
 
Some posters equate wins and losses with talent. All I know is Herbert is bigger, stronger, more accurate ( from what I've seen), better screen, and throws accurately on the run. Anyone watching this game tonight can see he's going to be a great QB in this league for a long time. Saying otherwise shows you know nothing about football.

He's gonna be good . So is the one we got

Why can't both things be true :shrug:
 
Some posters equate wins and losses with talent. All I know is Herbert is bigger, stronger, more accurate ( from what I've seen), better screen, and throws accurately on the run. Anyone watching this game tonight can see he's going to be a great QB in this league for a long time. Saying otherwise shows you know nothing about football.
slow your roll a bit
 
Wonder if the trolls hair color is pink or blue tonight ?
We have our QB who we are going to ride or die with. If we die then we set our franchise back into a recession. If we ride well, you know.

Herbert looks good but he’s not our QB and never was. Our’s looks pretty good.
 
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