dnespins
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you mean as long as the team has to carry Tua and Tua doesn't carry the team he'll be poorly-considered? can't believe that...
Fantasy Football is why Tua gets hate
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Fair enough. I think the only way to really gauge your point is the reaction on the board after Tua has an undeniably, irrefutably great game, which hopefully will be this Sunday! I wasn't on the board much last year, but I thought he looked great against Arizona. I wonder what the reaction was here after that game. I hope it was all positive.
Well, he did lead the NFL in TD's with 28 his 2nd year starting, and in 2007 he got Randy Moss which probably has more to do with Brady throwing for 50 TDs than the rule change. Moss was good enough to make a previously retired Randal Cunningham achieve a new career-high in TDs with 34 in 1998. Throw in Wes Welker in 2007 as well and you have the perfect complimentary piece to a deep threat like Moss especially since Brady's bread butter is short throws.
SuperDuperPhin
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I can appreciate trying to quantify an individual's performance. I'm just of the opinion that it is almost impossible in a 53-man team sport. My comment was more a disdain for fantasy football than anything else.
DolfanISS
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The fantasy experts aren’t all that anyway. This past week I rolled out Stafford, Winston and Tannehill. Tannehill had the highest expectations from the experts, he did the worst. I don’t value QB much in Fantasy. This year if it’s not Mahomes or Allen many are in the same bucket. All about matchups unless you get one of the few matchup proof guys.
Its hard to put up good fantasy numbers when your offensive line is foldng like a lawn chair.
If you dont have enough time for a wr to run deep down the field how are you supposed to hit deep passes?
Tua having a stronger arm would help, im not a Tua apologist but the foundation of this team is totally flawed.
We tried to fix the line in 18 and 19 and then moved on to taking skill players (and more DBs) in 20 without ever fixing the oline. Waddle is nice to have and he looks legit but the bottomline is the OLine isn't good. Having a good oline is vital. Brady for example has always had a good to great oline. Manning also had a great Oline. Brees with the Saints had a great oline.
Its not a shock we don't, havnt and probably wont put up consistent fantasy points. The line needs to improve leaps and bounds before I expect constant fantasy production from any player on our offense.
If you dont have enough time for a wr to run deep down the field how are you supposed to hit deep passes?
Tua having a stronger arm would help, im not a Tua apologist but the foundation of this team is totally flawed.
We tried to fix the line in 18 and 19 and then moved on to taking skill players (and more DBs) in 20 without ever fixing the oline. Waddle is nice to have and he looks legit but the bottomline is the OLine isn't good. Having a good oline is vital. Brady for example has always had a good to great oline. Manning also had a great Oline. Brees with the Saints had a great oline.
Its not a shock we don't, havnt and probably wont put up consistent fantasy points. The line needs to improve leaps and bounds before I expect constant fantasy production from any player on our offense.
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Tua has to make too much effort to throw the ball.
FinFaninSeattle
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Here I was thinking it was the small stature, weak arm, happy feet and inability to go to his 2nd read. How could I have been so wrong?
Jimi
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Haha fair, I should have said in the modern era It’s a different game today.
Jimi
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Well that and his numbers improving greatly in that new uniform
ThePeopleShow13
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Fantasy football and sports gambling sites like Fan Duel drive the sports media. I would argue the hate Tua gets is driven by his low appeal to FF players and bettors more-so than his lack of praise in the media. I would agree that he hasn’t earned a ton of praise yet, but by that standard he certainly doesn’t deserve the hate he gets either.
ChitownPhins28
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I should've clarified that the 'people' I was talking about mainly referred to national audience and national 'talking heads', not so much Dolphins fans.
The 'experts' care more about the stat line than 8-3 as a starter.
The 'experts' dont care when a drop on 3rd down kills a drive that couldve led to more 'stats' like a TD pass.
The 'experts' care more about the stat line than 8-3 as a starter.
The 'experts' dont care when a drop on 3rd down kills a drive that couldve led to more 'stats' like a TD pass.
Nothing to do with the overall point of your post, but the fact that the term "game manager" is somehow derrogatory is baffling, and oxymoronic to me.
TB is first, and foremost, an elite game manager. You want your QB to be able to manage real time game situations at a high level. If he can't, he will never be a consistent QB.
The reality is though, a top 10 QB is the good game manager, that also has the "it" factor and executes at crunch time, in game altering situations.
the real reason is he eats a lot of spam.......most people from Hawaii like spam.