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bobdroopy said:
Jesus F'n Christ people, stop using idiotic reasoning to bash him.

Fact is, Spielman was underrated. He had two good drafts, and most of his trades can't be called terrible till we see what happens in years to come.

If Feeley turns out to be a bust, then by all means bash the hell out of him, But until then, Feeley is on our team and you guys should be supporting him, not bashing what we gave up for him.

Feeley will surprise.

Chubs is right, so lay off guys...
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actually this year's draft was done by Saban, who when hired, was given total control over players and personel.

and no one is really busting AJ or Gordon. Spielman gave up a 2nd round for AJ based on "projections" of what his numbers would look like if he was starter for a whole season, and he gave up a 3rd for a guy who might not even see the field this year.

Let's say he would have traded a later pick for AJ, and not traded for Gordon. We would have had 5 first day picks this year.
 
MikeO said:
Surtain is an old CB with a huge contract (tough to move) who is breaking down and has a bum knee. We got a 2nd round pick for him!

O-Gun led the conference in sacks, is young, and all we got was a decent WR and a 3rd round pick (which we then traded to get Lamar Gordon who won't even sniff the field this year with Ronnie and Ricky..etc).

The Surtain trade is a brilliant move considering we had ZERO leverage. The O-Gun trade blows on all levels cause we had leverage, lost it, and had to take the only offer left on the table.
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Surtain is one of the absolute best corners in the league, and has proven it over and over. He has surgery on his knee, so its now a bum knee? Yikes!!! Plus he is breaking down, and he is over the hill. All too funny.

Ogun is only a little younger, but he had major knee surgery once. That's something Surtain has never went thru! Yet Surtain is the one with the bum knee? Checking out the stats, shows me that Ogun has a knack for injuries that cause him to miss games, Surtain does not!

Booker is a pro bowler, and far from just decent. Sure Ogun is a good DE, but the trade yielded an excellent WR with a good contract, and a first day pick.

You got it twisted! The Surtain trade sucked, and the Ogun trade was a real good one.
 
MikeO said:
Washington offered us a few, we turned each one down. Minnesota also. Details were never released, but the phone was ringing draft weekend.

Spielman didn't value draft picks.
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You know the famous line right? Linky link?

I highly doubt it anyway...
 
Ozzy said:
You know the famous line right? Linky link?

I highly doubt it anyway...
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He's scrambling on Google now to find something to cover his butt.
 
Ozzy said:
You know the famous line right? Linky link?

I highly doubt it anyway...
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Actually, I remember reading on this board about those teams wanting to trade with us earlier, but none of them were willing to trade picks in that year's draft. They were only willing to trade future picks.
 
Noodle Arm said:
Oh come on guys....stop bashing and be nice! This message board is a way for Dolfans to express their opinions, no matter how outrageous.











Chub's opinion just happens to be completely wrong. :D
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chub said:
I am going on the defense for some people and players who I should not have to defend. Yet many fans should not attack these people or players either.

Rick Spielman. I have heard so often "he sucks" yet there is no proof he has made a single bad move. Do you all believe AJ sucks so bad, Carrey will never play in the NFL, Will Poole was a bad draft pick in the fourth round, Gordon wasnt worth a 3rd, and we got robbed in the Ogun trade?

I got news for you all if you believe that. Our new god Saban has done many similar things. What has Saban done?

He brought in Gus Frerotte a has been or never was, He brought in a never was for the Oline, He picked Crowder in the third round that had first round talent ( why didnt we wait till the fourth like we did with Will Poole ), He drafted a running back yet our team was bloated with talent at RB plus Ricky is returning, and Saban got robbed in the Surtain Trade!

OK firing Saban was just a joke but if the dolphins flop this year how bad was RS really? What happens if Feeley performs quite well? What happens if Gordon becomes a premier back or even a decent back. What happens if Will Poole anchors our CB spot as a top corner for the next 5 years. What happens if Carrey turns out to be a great Olineman.

Yes I know there are alot of what ifs but Saban has nothing to show for himself either. Saban is the perfect example of what if right now! All of Sabans moves are what ifs right now! What if Brown gets hurt in preseason and sits out the year, what if bringing back Ricky destroys the teams morale, What if all of our FA signings get hurt or just plain dont perform well! Will we see fire Saban threads next year?

I know many people hated Wanny. I think that the fact Speilman was around Wanny is enough for most fans to want him gone. Personally I will wait a few years before calling the guy an idiot or moron. I will wait a few years before I praise Saban too!

As for the pickups Spielman made I will give them 2 to 3 years to prove themselves. Same goes for Sabans draft and FA pickups and trades!

P.S. I heard a person say trading Ogun for a third and Booker was a reason RS should be fired! Totally moronic. We got less, a lot less for Surtain.

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I feel sorry for you bro. If you truley think this then i hope you go and join another team.
 
Chub must wear Jets pajamas to bed. :confused:
 
This thread is going to surpass 200 posts, and it sickens me to know I'm going to be part of it by hitting submit right now. :mdfin:
 
:rofl: I nominate this garbage thread as dumbest of the year.
 
chub said:
I am going on the defense for some people and players who I should not have to defend. Yet many fans should not attack these people or players either.

Rick Spielman. I have heard so often "he sucks" yet there is no proof he has made a single bad move. Do you all believe AJ sucks so bad, Carrey will never play in the NFL, Will Poole was a bad draft pick in the fourth round, Gordon wasnt worth a 3rd, and we got robbed in the Ogun trade?

I got news for you all if you believe that. Our new god Saban has done many similar things. What has Saban done?

He brought in Gus Frerotte a has been or never was, He brought in a never was for the Oline, He picked Crowder in the third round that had first round talent ( why didnt we wait till the fourth like we did with Will Poole ), He drafted a running back yet our team was bloated with talent at RB plus Ricky is returning, and Saban got robbed in the Surtain Trade!

OK firing Saban was just a joke but if the dolphins flop this year how bad was RS really? What happens if Feeley performs quite well? What happens if Gordon becomes a premier back or even a decent back. What happens if Will Poole anchors our CB spot as a top corner for the next 5 years. What happens if Carrey turns out to be a great Olineman.

Yes I know there are alot of what ifs but Saban has nothing to show for himself either. Saban is the perfect example of what if right now! All of Sabans moves are what ifs right now! What if Brown gets hurt in preseason and sits out the year, what if bringing back Ricky destroys the teams morale, What if all of our FA signings get hurt or just plain dont perform well! Will we see fire Saban threads next year?

I know many people hated Wanny. I think that the fact Speilman was around Wanny is enough for most fans to want him gone. Personally I will wait a few years before calling the guy an idiot or moron. I will wait a few years before I praise Saban too!

As for the pickups Spielman made I will give them 2 to 3 years to prove themselves. Same goes for Sabans draft and FA pickups and trades!

P.S. I heard a person say trading Ogun for a third and Booker was a reason RS should be fired! Totally moronic. We got less, a lot less for Surtain.

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Spielman did accomplish one thing in Miami, this long *** thread! Congrats!
 
MikeO said:
Difference is Nick didn't give up any draft picks for Gus!!! :shakeno: :shakeno:

And who knew Ricky would return, and who is to say he will. History shows Ricky changes his mind every 5 minutes.

And who's to say Crowder would have been there in the 4th?

And how did we get robbed in the Surtain trade? Only 1 team offered us a trade for Surtain!! It was either lose Surtain and get nothing. Or get a 2nd round pick (same round pick that went for Terrell Owens, Corey Dillion...etc that caliber of player)!

Nobody should be banned from this message board for an opinion, no matter how stupid. Yet you are testing this theory!
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Surtain didnt have to leave if we didnt trade him, he still would of played one more year with us. It was just that it was too much money to keep him but dont say that he would of just been cut or sumthin like that
 
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