utahphinsfan
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So... overpay for mediocrity?
The pats are..... so why not? /s
So... overpay for mediocrity?
Wouldnt say I’m stressed, but it is a little disappointing thats we were top 10 in cap space and most likely took a step back or have the same talent we had before FAI'm not worried about it, you guys stress too much over this
With Grier I give him 100% benefit of the doubt. He’s missed on some draft picks but this man knows how to get every penny possible out of a trade negotiation it’s impressive.
We were 10-6 with that talent, we didn't lose any linchpins and we have plenty of draft capital. No worries.Wouldnt say I’m stressed, but it is a little disappointing thats we were top 10 in cap space and most likely took a step back or have the same talent we had before FA
An awful lot of misinformation is presented here at Finheaven... most of it by people who think they kinda know how it works...I would love to be a cap nerd than not knowing WTF is going on
I think Van Noy, Karras and Shaq Lawson are at least reasonable losses. I guess Adam Butler and Bernardrick McKinney make up for those. And our division got significantly better so far. Your right the draft can definitely change everything, but draft is always a bit of a gamble.We were 10-6 with that talent, we didn't lose any linchpins and we have plenty of drat capital. No worries.
Gotta remember man, these players are free agents for a reason. These are not the top crop, this is for bolstering positions and maybe, just maybe spending on a top caliber player a team couldn't afford (which still wouldn't be a #1). Fins are doing just fine. They will get the goods in the draft with a plethora of picks.I think Van Noy, Karras and Shaq Lawson are at least reasonable losses. I guess Adam Butler and Bernardrick McKinney make up for those. And our division got significantly better so far. Your right the draft can definitely change everything, but draft is always a bit of a gamble.
I understand! But Grier isn’t making any decision that Flo isn’t 100% behind. It’s honestly that simple.
Reasonable losses but not irreplaceable, none of them set the world on fire while they were here. Holes, yes, but the production won't be hard to replace. I'm more into developing our own and being able to extend them if they deserve it so they don't hit FA. We want to be able to keep our good players, that's also part of FA, it's not only about who you pick up but who you are able to keep.I think Van Noy, Karras and Shaq Lawson are at least reasonable losses. I guess Adam Butler and Bernardrick McKinney make up for those. And our division got significantly better so far. Your right the draft can definitely change everything, but draft is always a bit of a gamble.
I think Van Noy, Karras and Shaq Lawson are at least reasonable losses. I guess Adam Butler and Bernardrick McKinney make up for those. And our division got significantly better so far. Your right the draft can definitely change everything, but draft is always a bit of a gamble.
A lot of factors that go into players hitting free agency. It’s not always that a player isn’t a high caliber player. Free agency is a gamble, just like the draft is. The issue is if your handing out big long term deals and they don’t work out it blows up in your face and you can’t cut bait as easily as you can if a bad draft pick doesn’t work out. Look at Ogbah and Lawson last year, similar players in terms of age and production one worked out great and one didn’t, we structured the contract in a way that allowed us to move on easily. Those are the deals I was hopeful we’d be aggressive with and so far we really only got Adam Butler as a player who fits a similar profile.Gotta remember man, these players are free agents for a reason. These are not the top crop, this is for bolstering positions and maybe, just maybe spending on a top caliber player a team couldn't afford (which still wouldn't be a #1). Fins are doing just fine. They will get the goods in the draft with a plethora of picks.
Right! Our defense played well most the year even with injuries (Outside of Byron going down). Next man up is huge for our defense and we did a nice job focusing on signing depth. Obviously we need some help on the edge and we need to hit that pick no doubt even if we sign Clowney but we will still find ways to get to QB's.... Two reasons. Our secondary helps our pass rush (coverage sacks). Flores ability to call blitzes. Now don't get me wrong, a dominant pass rusher on our defense would be a game changer but as long as Flores keeps it up with how he calls blitzes then we should be alright. I'm intrigued how we're gonna use McKinney. He should help our run defense right away which is a need and I can def see us using him to blitz quite often too.The sky is falling! The sky is falling!! Wait until it plays out...