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Ho Ho Ho!!! Phins Pass Blocking Not As Bad As Many Think

Southbeach 2 said:
FWIW, I did want to make the trade for Albert, did want to sign Bradshaw at RB, and did want to keep Fasano, as I posted in the past. That would have changed everything, and given us 2 more wins.

Aside from the pass blocking, our run blocking, aside from Pouncey, is the worst I've seen.
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But i thought it wasnt as bad as we thought? If its the worst you have ever seen, wouldnt that mean it is pretty bad then?
 
Southbeach 2 said:
It accounts for nothing other than the fact that sacks given up are not the only thing, as many think, for an OL to be good or bad.

How much quicker has RT thrown for the year? How did RT do vs the blitz? If ya bring it up, ya should back it up. No?
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I'm not the one starting threads that is proclaiming something that has already be debunked over and over and over. The FACT of the matter is that the stats DO NOT account for what I posted, no? If they do, please point out how. The numbers on Tannehill's time to throw were posted earlier in the season, look them up.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
By fixing the right tackle and left guard position the same way we fixed the left tackle position. By bringing in a better football player.

You know, the same thing we did to reduce the number of sacks per game from 4.4 to 2.5?
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Clabo has played well of late but, do not know he is the answer, maybe for next year. LT has been a disaster, and McKennie cannot do it any longer. I agree with Pouncey the LG, and "hopefully" Brenner at C. That would open up a lot in the playbook.
 
Awsi Dooger said:
I hope everyone received a fresh supply of Happy Adjustment for Christmas.

Available in liquid or solid. Mighty shield to deflect any stat.

If you want a "watch the games" perspective, Tannehill in my opinion is too frequently content to stand there when the pressure is moderate but not extreme. Instead of smart compact subtle moves to free additional space and essentially start over with a fresh pocket, he allows a stationary long legged target and invites sacks that should be avoided.

Throwing the ball away wouldn't hurt either.

He's fine on the move. Too often he doesn't move.
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I completely disagree with the notion that Tannehill holds the ball more than most other QBs. It is just bunk.

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WVDolphan said:
BINGO.

And gee, again I wonder why we give up way more sacks per pressure than most teams. :ponder:
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It is not at all hard to understand.

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Southbeach 2 said:
That's a great idea, just fix it. It does not matter that about half of the other teams in the NFL have the same problem. Does not matter that all teams have draft picks and access to FA, same as us, and still have had the same problem.

So, how do you suggest we do that?
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You are clearly mistaken about the state of the Fins OL compared to other teams.
 
FinfanInBuffalo said:
I'm not the one starting threads that is proclaiming something that has already be debunked over and over and over. The FACT of the matter is that the stats DO NOT account for what I posted, no? If they do, please point out how. The numbers on Tannehill's time to throw were posted earlier in the season, look them up.
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Early in the season, we were 3-0. What does that or anything early matter? Welcome to today. :)
 
FinfanInBuffalo said:
Here is what "The Thinker" thinks about another thread defending the OL after finally getting shouright to admit how bad they are:

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Buff, you have been overly involved in these discussions, and got a few questions?

Do you believe that hits and hurries matter in assessing the OL/

Do you think that Pouncey, Jerry, and Cog have been bad in pass protect?

We both agree on our OT's but, that's it.
 
Awsi Dooger said:
I hope everyone received a fresh supply of Happy Adjustment for Christmas.

Available in liquid or solid. Mighty shield to deflect any stat.

If you want a "watch the games" perspective, Tannehill in my opinion is too frequently content to stand there when the pressure is moderate but not extreme. Instead of smart compact subtle moves to free additional space and essentially start over with a fresh pocket, he allows a stationary long legged target and invites sacks that should be avoided.

Throwing the ball away wouldn't hurt either.

He's fine on the move. Too often he doesn't move.
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I saw a good development in RT throwing the ball away like 5 times vs Pitt. We disagree some on his moving out of the pocket. MY eyeballs don't see many plays where he had anywhere to go.

Yeah, let's have him roll out, move the pocket, etc. To where?
 
Southbeach 2 said:
Buff, you have been overly involved in these discussions, and got a few questions?

Do you believe that hits and hurries matter in assessing the OL/
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Yes, but not in a vacuum. % of drops backs resulting in hurries by itself is meaningless if you do not understand the context. It makes no sense to compare the % of hurries against a QB who gets rid of the ball in 2.5 seconds on average with one that holds it for 3.5 seconds on average. The key point is THE STAT THAT YOU ARE USING DOES NOT DIFFERENTIATE. You have to look at the stats in conjunction with other data. It has already been pointed out in this thread that the QBs who are ranked near Tannehill in quickness are pressured much less than Tannehill. Now why would that be?

Southbeach 2 said:
Do you think that Pouncey, Jerry, and Cog have been bad in pass protect?
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IMO, none have been very good but the play of the tackles has overshadowed everything else. Against the Bills, the interior of the line got abused. I have seen far too many collapsed pockets this season. I can't count how many times I saw 3 or 4 DL meet at the QB with all of our OL STANDING AND WATCHING!

Southbeach 2 said:
We both agree on our OT's but, that's it.
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IMO, both tackles and both guards will be replaced next season.
 
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