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How Does A Planned Tank Job Work?

Michigan Mike said:
"Tanking", in and of itself, is a terrible description that keeps getting thrown around on this board. Do you think that the players (either in Miami or anywhere else in the league) that will be entering their contract year will want to be associated with a team that has the perception of purposely tanking? Do you think that the players currently on the roster will want to stick around beyond their rookie contracts after being a part of the laughingstock of the league for a season and watching their earning potential go down the toilet? Do you really think that some mythical first round pick in 2020 or 2021 is really all this team needs to be competitive?

Do you guys really think that trading away everyone/anyone with any value is really the way to go? How do you fill a competent 53 man roster in a two-three years if you are replacing every single player on the cheap and replacing experience with draft choices?

Instead, a rebuild, be definition, is what the team is entering. They need to build from the ground up with young players while also having the steady veteran presence to guide the players and show them how to be professionals. Sure the "tanking" worked (in the opinion of many here) with the Suck for Luck but how successful has that team been in his six seasons? He is entering his age 30 season, has had a pretty serious injury history and the best they have done is 11-5 and gotten bounced from the playoffs in every appearance they have made. And he has thrown more INT than TD in the playoffs.

This team needs to keep the core of players that they have and build around that. Players like Fitzgerald, Howard, Ballage, Drake, Tunsil, Grant, Wilson, Stills and probably a couple others are the core of what can be a good team with the right coaching, drafts, free agents and a good dose of good luck on the injury front.
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Great post.

Any rebuild has to start with a QB, though. So if 2020 is were the QB talent is, we need to acquire as many 2020 picks we can incase we need to move up.
 
See the colts from 8 years ago

Perfect example. Healthy scratch with a fabricated injury of Dwight freeney to end the season etc
 
DolfanISS said:
How many Super Bowls have they won since that tank in 2011? Just curious so I can know how long it's going to take.
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They were hardly favored to win a Super Bowl by now. If that is the criteria then almost any team, coach and quarterback is going to fail.

To quote Bill Parcells, "Do you know how hard it is to win the Super Bowl?"

On every college and pro site it is convenient to condemn anyone who doesn't win the championship. That's how a terrific coach like Schottenheimer is viewed considerably lower than deserved. And likewise someone like Wannstedt here. Or Jim Harbaugh. Let's just say I am not impressed by anyone who condemns that type. They are taking the cheap bar stool path. That same type would be ripping Dabo Swinney if he lost all 4 to Alabama instead of managing a split.

The idea is to make enough correct choices to put yourself in position as often as possible. Obviously some years will unfold poorly but you need that wide window. The Dolphins under Marino did not make the correct choices in terms of style of play they adopted. In this era given the rules in play the correct choice is to keep trying until you have the freakish quarterback. If you are rationalizing to patch the team piece by piece the big picture is flying comfortably above your head and there is no window.
 
How does a planned tank job work?

Lets see.

Play fales the entire season and let him air it out on every down.
 
Even if you try, you may end up having to trade up for a quarterback. That's the reality. In other words, no guarantee of getting the top pick.
 
hoops said:
See the colts from 8 years ago

Perfect example. Healthy scratch with a fabricated injury of Dwight freeney to end the season etc
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people wondered if the Colts had any sense of dignity and then they saw

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Awsi Dooger said:
They were hardly favored to win a Super Bowl by now. If that is the criteria then almost any team, coach and quarterback is going to fail.

To quote Bill Parcells, "Do you know how hard it is to win the Super Bowl?"

On every college and pro site it is convenient to condemn anyone who doesn't win the championship. That's how a terrific coach like Schottenheimer is viewed considerably lower than deserved. And likewise someone like Wannstedt here. Or Jim Harbaugh. Let's just say I am not impressed by anyone who condemns that type. They are taking the cheap bar stool path. That same type would be ripping Dabo Swinney if he lost all 4 to Alabama instead of managing a split.

The idea is to make enough correct choices to put yourself in position as often as possible. Obviously some years will unfold poorly but you need that wide window. The Dolphins under Marino did not make the correct choices in terms of style of play they adopted. In this era given the rules in play the correct choice is to keep trying until you have the freakish quarterback. If you are rationalizing to patch the team piece by piece the big picture is flying comfortably above your head and there is no window.
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I don't disagree, It's more the folks on this board seem to think a high draft choice at QB is an automatic ticket. It is not.
 
TrinidadDolfan said:
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Since you seem to have such great insight,

please enlighten us as to what Franchise QB you would have us obtain..... via a “6th, the 25th overall, or free agency”.

And this goes for all you posters so dead set against striving for a high pick in 2020
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Not my job! It's been done before by the professionals. That's all that matters.
 
We were 7-9 with lots of injuries. We should have won the Bengals and Colts games too. Its not like we are all that bad
 
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