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HYDE: Ex-Dolphins? Bring ’em on! (Must read!)

Originally posted by DrAstroZoom
Rick, even as satire, the piece is over-the-top yuk-yuk stuff.

Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal" was more subtle.
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Come on man...Jonathan Swift was a great writer. This guy is a sports commentator. As sports commentary goes, it's good stuff. It won't win any Pulitzers, but it was funny...in a depressing sort of way.
 
Originally posted by NavyFishFan
Do some real reporting. Ask some real questions. And drop your ax to grind. It is boring."


EXACTLY! Aren't reporters supposed to report the "facts?"
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He wasn't reporting, he was writing COMMENTARY. You know, like on an editorial page?
 
Originally posted by NavyFishFan
Do some real reporting. Ask some real questions. And drop your ax to grind. It is boring."


EXACTLY! Aren't reporters supposed to report the "facts?"

This is something you'd expect to see in some third-rate wannabe REAL paper in a division rival town, mocking the organization. THAT's where this belongs.....not here.
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Okay, I do need to step in here and point out Hyde is a columnist. His job is not to report facts, it's to comment on them. As such, he is expected to express his opinion ... hopefully in an insightful manner.

This article, on the other hand, just seems like a silly exercise in "Look How Witty I Am," as did his response to Taylor's anti-media comments.
 
Originally posted by Rick 1966


When reality is negative, you show negativity. The reality in this case is that the Fins made a bad joke of a decision and most media commentators are discussing this reality.
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LMAO!

Reality = facts. Where's the NEGATIVITY in the facts? Dan Marino was hired as VP of FO. Negatives: Lack of experience, lack of contacts in the executive realm and lack of established personnel evaluative skills.

There are a number of positives that would far outweigh the negatives in this particular situation. But the bottom line is, the reality is NOT negative unless somebody chooses to only see the negative in the decisions.
 
Originally posted by DrAstroZoom


Okay, I do need to step in here and point out Hyde is a columnist. His job is not to report facts, it's to comment on them. As such, he is expected to express his opinion ... hopefully in an insightful manner.

This article, on the other hand, just seems like a silly exercise in "Look How Witty I Am," as did his response to Taylor's anti-media comments.
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Fair enough.
 
Originally posted by NavyFishFan


LMAO!

Reality = facts. Where's the NEGATIVITY in the facts? Dan Marino was hired as VP of FO. Negatives: Lack of experience, lack of contacts in the executive realm and lack of established personnel evaluative skills.

There are a number of positives that would far outweigh the negatives in this particular situation. But the bottom line is, the reality is NOT negative unless somebody chooses to only see the negative in the decisions.
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No, you left out the biggest negative in the decision: that since Marino is indeed unqualified and inexperienced, he won't be intimately involved in the decision making wrt personnel, and thus the SAME PEOPLE will be in charge of that. The same ones responsible for us having a HORRIBLE offensive line and only one good WR on the whole team. THAT is the biggest negative: nothing has changed at all.
 
Originally posted by PhinstiGator


I shot him off an Email last night...I doubt that he will respond.

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Do some real reporting. Ask some real questions. And drop your ax to grind. It is boring."
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Good read, hope it hits a nerve :)
 
Originally posted by Rick 1966


No, you left out the biggest negative in the decision: that since Marino is indeed unqualified and inexperienced, he won't be intimately involved in the decision making wrt personnel, and thus the SAME PEOPLE will be in charge of that. The same ones responsible for us having a HORRIBLE offensive line and only one good WR on the whole team. THAT is the biggest negative: nothing has changed at all.
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Yea but the difference now is that Rick is in charge of personnel, not Dave. And if Dave gets over-defense-anxious, Dan will step in and tell him to p-off. That's a difference, and a big enough difference to get the job done I think.
 
Originally posted by Rick 1966


No, you left out the biggest negative in the decision: that since Marino is indeed unqualified and inexperienced, he won't be intimately involved in the decision making wrt personnel, and thus the SAME PEOPLE will be in charge of that. The same ones responsible for us having a HORRIBLE offensive line and only one good WR on the whole team. THAT is the biggest negative: nothing has changed at all.
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Not true. Spielman (by far a better evaluator of talent than Wanny) has the final say on personnel, Wanny has been instructed to stick to coaching, and a third party (whose own credibility is on the line) has added a level of accountability to both.

The cast is pretty much the same, but the roles are vastly different.
 
Originally posted by Rick 1966


No, you left out the biggest negative in the decision: that since Marino is indeed unqualified and inexperienced, he won't be intimately involved in the decision making wrt personnel, and thus the SAME PEOPLE will be in charge of that. The same ones responsible for us having a HORRIBLE offensive line and only one good WR on the whole team. THAT is the biggest negative: nothing has changed at all.
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Well of course he's not going to come right in and make all the decisions...he said that much himself.

What he WILL do is learn the business under the advice and guidance from many experienced professionals, from within the Dolphin organization and from the outside as well. Many people around the country that know the business have already said they'll help Dan in whatever way they can.

He will be involved, but he won't be dictating. That's Spielman's job (which indicates power and position that he DIDN'T have before). So it would be wrong to say nothing has changed.
 
Originally posted by DrAstroZoom


Not true. Spielman (by far a better evaluator of talent than Wanny) has the final say on personnel, Wanny has been instructed to stick to coaching, and a third party (whose own credibility is on the line) has added a level of accountability to both.

The cast is pretty much the same, but the roles are vastly different.
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We've been told that, but it's easy to say and not so easy to do.
Wanny will be right there next to Spielman in the booth on draft weekend, and Spielman has spent years deferring to Wanny. Do you think that Huizenga pronouncing him GM and saying "Now you make the final decision" will get rid of the years of deference he has shown to Wanny? It's an unworkable situation. One or both of them had to go. Neither did, which was the major blunder. I can see keeping Spielman and bringing in a new coach, but not keeping them both.
 
Originally posted by Rick 1966
Wanny will be right there next to Spielman in the booth on draft weekend, and Spielman has spent years deferring to Wanny. Do you think that Huizenga pronouncing him GM and saying "Now you make the final decision" will get rid of the years of deference he has shown to Wanny?
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Yes I do, for precisely the reason you cite: Spielman has spent years deferring to Wanny. I get more of the image of him as a kid who's finally been handed the keys to the family car and told to test it out on the open road.
 
"majority of commentators and analysts that think the Marino hiring is nothing but a dog and pony show to distract Fins fans from the fact that nothing has been changed despite two seasons out of the playoffs."

Just in Miami Rick, just in Miami....

--Ross
 
Originally posted by Ross
"majority of commentators and analysts that think the Marino hiring is nothing but a dog and pony show to distract Fins fans from the fact that nothing has been changed despite two seasons out of the playoffs."

Just in Miami Rick, just in Miami....

--Ross
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No, that's not true Ross. It's across the country.
 
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