I was wrong

[hoops]

Hoops I wouldn't give up Ingram yet.He had a much better year this year.progressing and not Regressing like Richardson.

oh yeah he's a pro and a solid one but he's not special...not headed to the hall...so i have to call it a miss...

my qb call with tannehill will make up for it :up:

 

[Tannenbombs]

I don't think anyone should beat themselves up over ODB. Even Jerry Reese had him third at WR after Sammy and Evans. Sometimes you never know until they get to the NFL....

 

[Mogwai]

I've been wrong about Pryor and Hill. But I wonder if that has more to do with the fact that going to the jests is talent purgatory.

 

[Gonzo]

Trent Richardson was far worse than I expected and Ja'wuan James was better than I expected. The first requires no explanation. Regarding James, I expected him to be good, but the fact that he was able to make the transition to LT in a pinch pushed him to another level. I didn't like taking a strictly RT in the first, especially when it requires that you pass on players like Cooks, Dix, and Benjamin, but his flexibility and being as close to the mythical "swing tackle" as you can get makes me happy to eat crow on it.

 

[Spesh]

Ryan Williams, still haven't gotten over that one.

Justin Blackmon, can't fix stupid.

Dion Jordan

Oh man, that one still stings. I thought that guy was going to be one of the best backs in the league. Consistent top 2 or 3 back for years to come. Even doubled down on that prediction and kept drafting him in fantasy(his rookie year i drafted him right before the preseason game in which he blew out his knee, by the time the our draft wrapped up i got a message saying he was done for the year). Dead wrong.

Christian Ponder is another. I was really high on Glenn Dorsey, thought he would be a perennial pro-bowler. I completely whiffed on Stephen Hill.

 

[Scotty P]

I liked the Ted Ginn Jr. Pick at the time.

Whoa

 

[NorFlaFin]

I thought Ryan Lindley could be a solid starter player, he sucks.

Whiffed on Mt Cody dude can't get on the field.

 

[datruth55]

Well how far back are we going lol.

I can remember saying Heath Shuler was a sure fire NFL stud QB back in the day. Carl Pickens was another Tennessee player I thought would be a stud.

Peter Warrick, Glenn Dorsey, Brian Brohm, Rey Maualuga, Rolando McClain, Brandon Graham, Arrelious Benn....wrong on all of them.

 

[Awsi Dooger]

I'm in my 50s so I have the honor of being wrong countless times before many posters here were born.

Brutally wrong in both directions. I'm sure I don't remember some of the most blatant examples.

Let's see, the year we drafted Marino I loved a Notre Dame tight end named Tony Hunter. I was convinced he'd be a Hall of Famer. A year earlier I wrote in the USC student paper that Marcus Allen's 4.65 speed justified him being selected behind some back from Baylor, whose name I don't remember. He did go ahead of Marcus.

The first year I joined this site I really liked Mike Williams of USC and was convinced he'd be a star pro and overcome his lack of great speed. I attended some USC games in that era. All the other great USC players were in awe of Williams, forever grouping around him on the sideline and after the game. I gave that too much weight.

I tend to apply generalities. They are designed to click more often than not. And they do, based on big sample logic. But when the minority result occurs, I am vulnerable to be very wrong. For example, I don't trust transfer quarterbacks. Generally it means they ran away from something. Therefore I didn't really study anything about Joe Flacco's game. I distrusted him and downgraded him. Obviously that was wrong. Likewise I don't like 5th year guys when there isn't a significant injury excuse. Hence last year I wasn't particularly high on Zack Martin. I didn't care how he looked. Fifth year should mean less than it appears, and likely to disappoint.

I was high on Richardson from Alabama. Of all the whiffs, that one makes maybe the least sense to me. He looked terrific as a collegian but now is as close to a Ryan Leaf of running backs as seemingly possible. No real reason for him to be in the league a year from now, unless something in his contract prevents dismissal, or he finds a pro level he's yet to display.

Recent Alabama players are difficult for me. Extreme disparity. I give quite a bit of credit to anyone who can decipher it dependably.

I've also had several flubs with the Canes. I thought Calais Campbell was too lazy and inactive. Sam Shields is a shocker. He was so inept in a home game against Oklahoma that I didn't want to look in that direction from the stands.

With the Dolphins I loved the Sammie Smith pick. I managed to convince the Horseshoe sportsbook manager to give me the day off. I stayed home and celebrated when we took Sammie, who had shredded the great Canes team of 1987 for more than 200 yards.

 

[Sons Of Shula]

I'm sure I don't remember some of the most blatant examples.

I'll help you out:

Johhny Manziel Critics: (http://www.finheaven.com/showthread...ritics&p=1065048802&highlight=#post1065048802)

They'll be wrong. Let them be wrong. The more decisions you make the greater likelihood of flubbing the bottom line...

Greatness finds a way. That's my amusement with all the knocks on Manziel's playing style. Do you really want to be among that crowd, the ones who think he'll fade to mediocrity or worse simply because the NFL is more pocket oriented? Scary. Absolutely scary. There's a guy with all this early demonstrated talent, good enough to shred Alabama twice, and you are relying on an adjustment and little else. Good luck with that. Manziel drops back, scans the field, and suddenly the adjusters are terrified. Wait a minute. He completed a dart from the pocket. And he didn't act surprised or winded or even slightly impressed with himself. How can that happen? What about my cynical adjustment? The freak talents have no trouble adapting.

The same crowd who want to pretend a moderate talent merely needs more time are generally the ones who happily downgrade the genius types.

When Manziel became prominent midway through the 2012 season, I did some research and found the high school article in which he emphasized that he was determined to be a good person off the field. I posted that link here last fall. As always, I place highest value on early indications, not last second cramming for tests. I believe Manziel will live up to that promise.

What would YOU have done with the #19 pick?: (http://www.finheaven.com/showthread.php?354287-What-would-YOU-have-done-with-the-19-pick)

I'll say Manziel because during the telecast I was rooting for us to take Manziel, partially because it would signify that Hickey is bold and has a chance to be great.

Did Some People Here Really Want Us To Draft Manziel: (http://www.finheaven.com/showthread...anziel&p=1065072321&highlight=#post1065072321)

I absolutely would have taken Manziel at 19... I would prefer to gamble on greatness. Some of these pro franchises are so petrified of an unusual roster dynamic they make one tentative move after another, happily drifting alongside irrelevancy.

Better Career - RT or Johnny Football: (http://www.finheaven.com/showthread.php?352160-Better-NFL-Career-RT-or-Johnny-Football)

This is right up my alley. I've spent nearly 30 years trying to place myself on the right side as often as possible with as little subjectivity as possible. Decision making is ruination.

Manziel has been the better player, and not by a minor degree. There's a reason one guy is a legend, and the other a 26 year old hopeful. I'm very comfortable allowing those basics to work in my favor, and not against me while relying on happy adjustment.

Just too bad that j-off-her-doll didn't post at greater length and ferocity in this thread. Too often he's a nice guy and doesn't want to offend. You don't have to worry about that with me.

It's a good thing they hand out free meals in those Vegas casinos. Don't fall off that bar stool. :up:

 

[Despacio]

I haven't seen a dismantling that bad since Marino's final game.


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[LordTua]

Tavon freaking Austin. I thought that kid was going to the Barry Sanders of WRs, just a walking highlight reel. Totally missed that one.

 

[AJ Duhe]

Took me a while to think of a big miss, but then I came up with Omar Jacobs out of Bowling Green in 2006. In college, he threw with great anticipation, and he had good size and good feet. He ran a pro system in college, and I thought the dolphins would be a perfect fit. After the offseason all star games and prospect testing process, his stock dropped. I'm still not sure what happened.

Last I heard, he was playing in one of those semi-pro leagues, the Professional American Football League.

 

[Fin Thirteen]

I'll help you out:

Johhny Manziel Critics: (http://www.finheaven.com/showthread...ritics&p=1065048802&highlight=#post1065048802)


What would YOU have done with the #19 pick?: (http://www.finheaven.com/showthread.php?354287-What-would-YOU-have-done-with-the-19-pick)


Did Some People Here Really Want Us To Draft Manziel: (http://www.finheaven.com/showthread...anziel&p=1065072321&highlight=#post1065072321)


Better Career - RT or Johnny Football: (http://www.finheaven.com/showthread.php?352160-Better-NFL-Career-RT-or-Johnny-Football)


It's a good thing they hand out free meals in those Vegas casinos. Don't fall off that bar stool. :up:

This thread is for pointing the finger at yourself and yourself only, my friend. It's enough to come on here and admit you were wrong without getting flamed for it.

So, who did you screw up on?

 

[xXwarXx]

I thought Ryan Lindley could be a solid starter player, he sucks.

Whiffed on Mt Cody dude can't get on the field.

Hah that's a bad one.

I dunno if it's as bad as this one though, Ricky Stanzi. I thought he was going to be the next Pennington and I pounded the table for us to draft him. Smh Ricky Stanzi...