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If Tua is the pick do you draft 2 QBs this year due to health?

Fin-Loco said:
Hi all. New guy here. Thanks for the warm welcome. Love this place.

So, we all know Tua is a fairly fragile QB. Alabama's OL was rated #3 and #4 in the two years he was the primary starter. He also was already out of the game in the third quarter in many of those games due to an extensive lead. So behind an impressive O Line, he got banged up enough to require four surgical procedures. He's now nursing a very interesting hip that could lead to early arthritis as well is likely to get re-injured according to my Orthopedic Specialist friend. Wherever he goes, there is a possibility he may not be cleared to play in a game until late in the first season or not until '21.

If Tua is the pick at #5, we have an interesting issue to ensure consistency at QB. Sure, we have Fitzpatrick now. But, would it be in our interest to take Tua AND Fromm? Maybe pay them both handsomely and have two eventual starters?

I know what I'm asking is dramatic, but how many teams in the last 4 years have not learned in a very painful manner that they are only as good as their backup QB. Tua is fragile behind one of the best O lines in college, to think he comes here and is suddenly never touched is foolish.

Please give your thoughts and remember I'm the new guy, so take it easy lol.
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And how many teams since 2000 have taken 2 high round QBs in the same year?
No
 
Yeah just draft 53 QBS and some of the. Will learn how to block and play defense.

How about this, don’t draft a guy in a wheel chair top 5? I’d rather see them take a prospect with 5 and trade back up to get him, if that’s the hill this staff wants to die on, with the now worthless picks from Houston and Pitt
 
SCOTTY said:
So I'm not the only oldie easy listening guy nice!
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My musical tastes are quite varied.

Black Sabbath/BOC was the first concert I ever saw, while the most recent was Disturbed......lol
 
Mach2 said:
My musical tastes are quite varied.

Black Sabbath/BOC was the first concert I ever saw, while the most recent was Disturbed......lol
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Did he do sound of silence. One of my top favs
 
Mach2 said:
Yes, and I agree.

I prefer the version he did live on the Conan show, to any others I've heard. Brings tears to my eyes sometimes. Dude has some serious pipes.
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I'll look that one up.
 
Bumpus said:
Lets just go ahead and take 5 QB's in the next two years.

5 first round picks turned into QB's? How could we miss? Think of the bounty we'll be able to trade at least 3 of them for. :lol:

Or, maybe just settle on one guy and then focus on the rest of our team.
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I'm in the realist camp. 32 teams don't and haven't drafted two high round QBs in a year, drafted a high round QB every year til they get a top QB, or drafted BPA with every pick. There's a reason for that. I prefer suggestions that stay inside reality
 
13marino13 said:
Actually he's correct, the insurer's view on it would be he was fortunate that he didn't get caught in those 10 years. If he has 2 infractions in one-month it's reasonable to assess that it accurately reflects his true driving habits. There is no reckless driving forgiveness. Just sayin... :shrug:
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The point is history and recent he can hijack the post - I live in Canada - my rates go up when you renew your registration or you have an accident
 
1972forever said:
Just because the answer doesn’t agree with your own conclusion doesn’t mean I am wrong.

In regards to Tua‘s history, he has had a knee injury, two ankle surgeries and hip surgery all in the last two years. I have no idea what his injury history was in the 10 years before he went to Alabama but those years are totally irrelevant.

He wasn’t playing at the college level the ten years prior and he will only take harder hits once he is in the NFL. Based on his recent injury history, I have no doubt any insurance company insuring him against a career ending injury would now charge him a lot more than they would have the day he enrolled at Alabama.
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Hijack the point I don’t care I stopped caring when you create storylines

There is recent history I agree
 
EasyRider said:
Um, hmm, yeah, right. Not so sure about that one dude. Flores has a plan and I think he was trying to protect him this year and also trying to win games. He wasn’t gonna pull Fitz after the run he was on. Flores is all about WINNING. When Flores says Rosen isn’t the guy then I’ll believe it.
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Why would he ever do that? Rosen will get traded for a draft pick in this year's draft is my bet. If he had been the guy and Flores is about winning which you said, then why wouldn't he have started Rosen if he was the guy and would have helped win?
 
1972forever said:
Just because the answer doesn’t agree with your own conclusion doesn’t mean I am wrong.

In regards to Tua‘s history, he has had a knee injury, two ankle surgeries and hip surgery all in the last two years. I have no idea what his injury history was in the 10 years before he went to Alabama but those years are totally irrelevant.

He wasn’t playing at the college level the ten years prior and he will only take harder hits once he is in the NFL. Based on his recent injury history, I have no doubt any insurance company insuring him against a career ending injury would now charge him a lot more than they would have the day he enrolled at Alabama.
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Here let me dumb it down

Student has straight A’s for 10 years then on his last report card he gets to Ds - what is his history and what is his recent history

Does that help you understand the difference between history and recent history??
 
Clearly the fact that you didn't see Rosen start is proof that he wasn't beating out Fitzpatrick. I don't know how everyone thinks there is some secret info and the coach is being coy and keeping this great weapon Rosen secret. The guys a putz, couldn't beat out Fitzpatrick so he's now a camp body and it's Fitz's team until Tua or whoever we draft is ready then Fits is the back-up.
 
fansinceGWilson said:
And how many teams since 2000 have taken 2 high round QBs in the same year?
No
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Right. So, the point is, that almost every team in the league over the last four years has learned in spades that they are only as good as their backup QB. If we are drafting Tua, we're drafting someone that has a hard time staying healthy. We also have the most picks in NFL Draft history or something close. So, we would be doing something different by doing it no doubt, bu the point would be we have two starters to ensure consistency with Tua as the alpha.

I admit it's different and I'm merely posing it as a concept. OR we can instead talk about the excitement that is our QB coach hiring...
 
fansinceGWilson said:
I'm in the realist camp. 32 teams don't and haven't drafted two high round QBs in a year, drafted a high round QB every year til they get a top QB, or drafted BPA with every pick. There's a reason for that. I prefer suggestions that stay inside reality
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Right, so new thoughts are shunned and we're only supposed to do what everyone else does. Sounds innovative.
 
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