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J.Chase has to be a physical receiver, whenever he stutter steps he really slows down.

TrinidadDolfan said:
I’ve noticed that when he comes out of his stutter, he usually speeds up. Weird.
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Great observation. My point was he slows down sooooo much into the stutter he’s easily covered and is forced to play physical ball. The other 3 options are remarkably quick into and out of their stutter moves. Weird.
 
fansinceGWilson said:
Y any chance, are you a Pitts advocate?
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I really like Pitts, Smith, Waddle, Chase and Parsons for our 1st pick. I’m a Dolphins advocate. I was just pointing out something that I didn’t like in his game and has nothing to with Pitts. Smith, Waddle and Pitts are a lot faster out of the stutter which allows all three to separate more quickly.
 
marino13zach54 said:
Chase is the definition of fluid. He moves like a pro. He was meant to play WR. Big, big things for this youngster. Mark it here.
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Interesting, I see him fluid in straight line speed and one cut and go but getting into a stutter and cut I can’t say I agree. I don’t doubt he will be a very good pro.
 
Dolphinator530 said:
Hope he is as tough as he appears to be, not a great tactician. Usually wins with brute strength rather than speed and precision.

Definite playmaker but let’s not act like is he is flawless. A lot of bad tendencies can be coached out and if put into a proper position to succeed any player can thrive. But his size and style may not match. Hard to play like TO and CJ when you are 6’ 200.
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Agreed, wouldn’t be upset if he’s wearing a Dolphins uniform and I also don’t mind if FO thought Pitts\Smith\Waddle were a better fit.
 
3rdandinches said:
Agreed, wouldn’t be upset if he’s wearing a Dolphins uniform and I also don’t mind if FO thought Pitts\Smith\Waddle were a better fit.
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I don't follow much college football, but I read someone say Pitts only had 3 games out of 8 with 100 yards last year and a bulk of his tds came in 2 games. I just wanted to know what your thoughts are about said stats? I like pitts, but sometimes I get nervous with can't miss prospects sometimes and tight ends going so high. We've seen some super athletic tight ends either be busts or be good but not "great" like a top 10 pick are to be. Vernon Davis had a slow start in first few years until Singletary kicked his ass in gear. He was pretty good, but yet Gronk, Kelce, Kittle, Gonzalez, Gates were all better and none of them were first rd let alone top 10 picks.
 
cltchperf said:
I don't follow much college football, but I read someone say Pitts only had 3 games out of 8 with 100 yards last year and a bulk of his tds came in 2 games. I just wanted to know what your thoughts are about said stats? I like pitts, but sometimes I get nervous with can't miss prospects sometimes and tight ends going so high. We've seen some super athletic tight ends either be busts or be good but not "great" like a top 10 pick are to be. Vernon Davis had a slow start in first few years until Singletary kicked his *** in gear. He was pretty good, but yet Gronk, Kelce, Kittle, Gonzalez, Gates were all better and none of them were first rd let alone top 10 picks.
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I don’t worry about stats for individual players, I look at match-ups and impact on the overall offense. An athlete like Pitts lines up all over the field creating mis-matches and will command a 2nd defender (over the top or underneath). This allows others to be more success in our offense. The more match up problems we create for defenders the easier the game is for Tua. The overall statistics of all individual players maybe lower but collectively as a group it will be superior. Much like our defense, we aren’t based off 1 guy getting 17-20 sacks. Our strength is that we have 5/6 guys getting “give or take” 5 sacks each.
 
The Ghost said:
The talent is obvious, my bust radar is also very high with this one though. I keep telling myself I’m biased against him because of the LSU factor.

I’m scared to pass on him and I’m scared to draft him.

My board is absolutely:

1. Pitts
2. Sewell




3. Trade down
4. A 3 sided coin with 3 different WRs on it.
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I like Chase a bit more than you, but your phrase "...scared to pass on him and scared to draft him" really rings true. I feel like that particularly about Jaelan Phillips at 18 if available.


My board:

1. Trade down with QB needy team for an unlikely high haul.
2. Pitts
3. Trade down a little for fair compensation.
4. Chase
5. 2 WR's and Sewell on a 3 sided dice. (Easier to find than a 3 sided coin : )
 
3rdandinches said:
I don’t worry about stats for individual players, I look at match-ups and impact on the overall offense. An athlete like Pitts lines up all over the field creating mis-matches and will command a 2nd defender (over the top or underneath). This allows others to be more success in our offense. The more match up problems we create for defenders the easier the game is for Tua. The overall statistics of all individual players maybe lower but collectively as a group it will be superior. Much like our defense, we aren’t based off 1 guy getting 17-20 sacks. Our strength is that we have 5/6 guys getting “give or take” 5 sacks each.
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So you think it was the respect teams had for Pitts receiving threat, that he caused extra defenders to cover him that allowed other WRs to get the stats? I mean Kadarius toney is good and could see how he got the benefit of the attention pitts created so picking up stats from pitts being doubled possibly. The games with under 100 yards were pretty solid too. Technically 99 yards is under 100, but that's a pretty good game. I noticed most of the under 100 yard games also were like 89 yard, which is still pretty solid and a 77 yard game or something. So it;s not like his under 100 yard games were like a bunch that were games that were 60 or under either. I think he had one that was like 59 yards but yeah I got ya.
 
I'm really am trying to stop myself from every letter I type in this thread because my reply to this some would call being a bully. This is just plain ridiculous
 
I think we are so deep into this $#!t that most everyone is drastically over analyzing ALL of these prospects. Trying to find things wrong with them. Same exact thing these GM/FO people tend to do. Over-preparation.

It’s akin to playing not to lose. GM’s and fans alike are playing not to be wrong.

I truly believe the average GM’s hit and miss ratio would greatly improve if there wasn’t so much time between the end of the season and the draft. Because they’d have to rely more upon the tape the player has already put out there and their own gut instinct.
 
Chase is going to be a very good pro. Personally I think both Chase and Smith are safer than Pitts, but that’s just me.

The hybrid unicorn position folks are projecting for Pitts doesn’t exist for a reason—most guys like Pitts (see Gesicki) don’t block well enough to create the mismatches folks dream up, and aren’t fluid enough to consistently beat NFL coverage specialists. They also—unlike WRs—get absolutely pounded play after play by NFL LBs and safeties and occasionally DEs, which takes an immense toll on a guy who is basically an oversized WR. I understand all the arguments for why these general rules won’t apply with Pitts.

But to me, it’s a tougher sell than Chase or Smith, who I already know are going to torch NFL quality one-on-one coverage because I’ve already seen them do it. I also think y’all should be more wary of the Pitts media blitz. When every team is telling the media about how special he is and how he’s the #1 non-QB prospect in the draft, to me, all that means is a lot of teams really hope Pitts comes off the board before they pick.
 
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