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Merged: Feeley the man

CanadaPhinsFan said:
I wasn't even talking about last night's game. Someone brought up the Pats game and referred to Feeley's performance in that game as mint. It wasn't mint. It was incredibly Fiedler-esque.

My point was less than 200yds on 35 attempts is not a "mint" performance and that we need a QB who will win games instead of playing not to lose them. BTW, I did say that was my point in the last post.
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No my point is this, with teh Pats game, and all, people will use stats when it fits their argument and when it doesnt, they say dont use stats. Pats game AJ played well, no he didnt have great stats, but he made plays. He was also clutch with the game on teh line.

My whole argument comes down to this - Many are making excuses for Gus last nite while trying to tear down AJs, why? Saying Gus' mistakes arent all his fault while AJ success really isnt successful, why? Because of an inner bias, me included, we all have biases that slants the picture the way we want to see it. I find it funny that anyone actually thinks they are completely objective. I want AJ to succeed. I want Gus to succeed as well, but dont like him so if he isnt teh starter, I am not unhappy. Yeap I will be dissappointed if AJ doesnt start, I am prepared for that cause I think Gus will end up teh starter.

The fact of teh matter is this. The truth is somehwere in teh middle. Not everything was completely Gus fault, AJ wasnt perfect. It was also one game. Circumstances too numerous to mention play into anything. Like Gus threw behind McMike, but he got his hands on it. Bad pass by Gus? Yes, but McMike still should have caught it. The players around you can influence your play, they can make you look good, they can make you look bad. The end result is somewhere in between.

The biggest reason why I think Gus starts? Coaches and playere have confidence in him it seems. That is also a huge intangible, all 11 guys believing. Linehan is in his corner is a plus as well.
 
OH Brother... Lets stop this now. Neither QB looked great. Feeley maybe had better numbers.. but the drives looked feeble to me. And lets stop we should kept this person or that. We all called for Fiedlers head.... we got it..... live with it.

Our enemic offense was a total team letdown... Lets hope Saban has something up his sleeve,, cause its going to be an embarassing year
 
Canadianfishfan said:
OH Brother... Lets stop this now. Neither QB looked great. Feeley maybe had better numbers.. but the drives looked feeble to me. And lets stop we should kept this person or that. We all called for Fiedlers head.... we got it..... live with it.

Our enemic offense was a total team letdown... Lets hope Saban has something up his sleeve,, cause its going to be an embarassing year
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Yeap I agree with that.

I also believ, be it AJ or Gus, the offense will look better. We are not showing our whole offense, I cant believe we will have as many drops and fumbles again or saban will go balistic. I think everything right now is a work in progress. I would actually be suprised if we as a team were clicking on all cylinders. As fans we want to see that, but thruth is, everything is new. I want to see more progress than we have, but in some ways we did. The d played well, teh O showed life, tho continuely shot itself in teh foot. But like I said, I cant see these mistakes last nite being habitual, if they are, your right, it will be an embarrasing year.
 
rickeyrunsover said:
No my point is this, with teh Pats game, and all, people will use stats when it fits their argument and when it doesnt, they say dont use stats. Pats game AJ played well, no he didnt have great stats, but he made plays. He was also clutch with the game on teh line.

My whole argument comes down to this - Many are making excuses for Gus last nite while trying to tear down AJs, why? Saying Gus' mistakes arent all his fault while AJ success really isnt successful, why? Because of an inner bias, me included, we all have biases that slants the picture the way we want to see it. I find it funny that anyone actually thinks they are completely objective. I want AJ to succeed. I want Gus to succeed as well, but dont like him so if he isnt teh starter, I am not unhappy. Yeap I will be dissappointed if AJ doesnt start, I am prepared for that cause I think Gus will end up teh starter.

The fact of teh matter is this. The truth is somehwere in teh middle. Not everything was completely Gus fault, AJ wasnt perfect. It was also one game. Circumstances too numerous to mention play into anything. Like Gus threw behind McMike, but he got his hands on it. Bad pass by Gus? Yes, but McMike still should have caught it. The players around you can influence your play, they can make you look good, they can make you look bad. The end result is somewhere in between.

The biggest reason why I think Gus starts? Coaches and playere have confidence in him it seems. That is also a huge intangible, all 11 guys believing. Linehan is in his corner is a plus as well.
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I don't care who starts. All I want is for the guy who plays best to be our starter. Gus, AJ, Sage, Brock...I really don't care. Just go out and win some games.

You're right about intangibles. If the team is publicly suporting Gus (as some players have) that has to count for something. They played with AJ last year and if they're still not convinced he's the guy, there could be a major locker room controvercy brewing if AJ starts.
 
DonShula84 said:
Considering Gus hasnt been officially named the starter yet, and the competition is still going on, it is plain and simple at all. If we're going to suck, Id rather suck with Feeley than suck with Gus. I want to see what Feeley can do.
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Wonder if Houck is unbiased or is looking objectively at each QB?:confused:
 
Fran2fin said:
Wonder if Houck is unbiased or is looking objectively at each QB?:confused:
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Huh? He is the o-line coach?!?
 
Fran2fin said:
Wonder if Houck is unbiased or is looking objectively at each QB?:confused:
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Im sure Houck objects to anyone playin behind his line atm.......



j/k Line looked good yesteday
 
''I don't want to have a quarterback controversy but I want every guy to know he has an opportunity to be the quarterback if he does a good job,'' he said. ``Someone has to take the bull by the horns and make things happen and be the leader. And I'm not sure that has happened yet.''

It hasn't happened because Frerotte struggled against Pittsburgh's starting defense and Feeley had his best game of the preseason, albeit against backups. Frerotte completed seven of 18 passes for 87 yards, and Feeley completed 16 of 20 passes for 94 yards.

This above is a Saban quote from teh Herald.

Doesnt sound like Gus has a lock on teh job at this point. Spin away.
 
rickeyrunsover said:
''I don't want to have a quarterback controversy but I want every guy to know he has an opportunity to be the quarterback if he does a good job,''
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yet Nick hasnt even let Sage work with the first teamers once in training camp.
 
VAMinnow said:
Im drunk, but looking at the stats Feeley outplayed Frerotte tonight. 16 for 20 are pretty good numbers. I forget what Frerotte's numbers were but they were not good. So, I dont care what you say, Frerotte should not have the lead as of yet. The decision shouldnt be decided yet
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man you must have had a good buzz feeley threy 15 3 yard passes:lol:
 
Dudeman said:
yet Nick hasnt even let Sage work with the first teamers once in training camp.
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This is true. Maybe sage should start against TB. But when Nick says every qb, by his actions it really comes down to AJ and Gus. He must not see what he wants in Sage. And at this point do you really want a 3 qb fight? I agree that it may not have been a bad idea to let Sage start last nite to see how he played against teh 1st team defense, but it is too late for that.
 
rickeyrunsover said:
Wow second team wasnt good enough for your argument? You had to make it 3rd? Maybe mid 4th they had some third? Feeley was also playing with the second and THIRd o-lines. Funny many said Gus should start because of his work against Backups vs Chicago. That was teh only game Gus looked decent.

3-4 dropped balls? Yeah Felley had a couple as well. One drop by McMike was on Gus, he threw it behind McMike. he also threw 18 passes, add three he is 10 of 18, better but not great. Also two of teh drops were the 4 to 5 yd variety, not balls that led to scores. Gus was very inaccurate AGAIN.

Also regardless of what defense was in, the thing that I was impressed with in AJ was he showed poise under pressure, lost the deer in the headlights looked, found his second and third options and didnt force teh ball. He was accurate as well.

Make any excuse you want AJ looked better than Gus. Does that mean he overtakes Gus? No. But if he outplays Gus next week by this margin, I think it opens teh door to the possibility. The key is how does Gus respond next week.
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The Feeley homers on this board are really starting to piss me off. I am NOT a gus fan, get it out of your damn head. Just because i knock feeley doesn't mean i like gus. i can't stand either QB.

Feeley is NOT as good as you guys claim he is. did you even watch the game? Feeley's passes were all short, to the side, in the flat-style passes that relied on the WR to make the yardage. how much YAC was there? not much. all the passes to Boston that everyone was raving about - boston goes 4 yards downfield, turns around, catches the ball, and promptly gets tackled. THIS WAS IN THE 4th QUARTER. yeah, excellent moving of the ball.

Feeley has done NOTHING to impress this preseason. All the feeley homers have is the Patriots game last year, which was 85% Dolphins D, 15% Feeley. Yes Feeley threw that last TD, but where was he the rest of the game? Would he have been back on the field if the D hadn't intercepted Brady? What did Feeley do all the other games last year? oh yeah, thats right, 11 Tds and 15 INTs - worse than any season Fiedler had. And no i'm not a Fiedler homer, i want the guy that is best for the job to play. If Fiedler is throwing less INTs, then he should start. But no, the Feeley homers just wanted someone OTHER than fiedler, regardless of who to start.

Feeley should start next game versus Tampa, and we'll see what happens. Gus has had 2 starts, lets give Feeley 2 starts.... and hopefully more than just 7 pass attempts this time. BUT, Until then, the Feeley fans have NO room to talk about ANYthing right now. While Gus is certainly not making a case for himself, Feeley hasn't done anything either. Seriously guys, this is ridiculous. If your guy isn't putting up, how can you talk smack about the other guy? just shut up.
 
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