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My analysis of frerrote... for you crazy folks...

dolfan4good said:
How can ANY QB look good with an offensive line that cannot pick up a blitz and allows pressure straight up the middle? Houck BETTER do something with this line or I see us in the hunt to draft Leinart!
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The lineman were taking care of there business....the RUNNING BACKS (Lamar Gorden especially) need to learn to pass protect...
 
arsenal said:
as for boiks long post, with the QB should be able to beat a blitz the playcalling helps, thats why you eventually saw a lot of WR screens and short passes in the 2nd quarter, thats how you have to beat it... problem is feeley didn't get a chance...
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Sorry for that diatribe, it was the toned down version.

Look, almost every play has a deep wr (Z wr) and typically somewhere to dump the ball whether it be the X wr (flanker), TE, or back. He's just got to find his open wr quicker. That fact that he didnt tells me that he he didnt understand the D he was facing or didnt understand the offense. Its 1 or the other. Unless he likes taking a beating.

Bottom line is that short, long, or intermediate pass...whatever, the same 5 things always affect AJ and none of it relates to his arm or accuracy; locking on, lack of pocket awareness, holding the ball too long, inability to read/understand D's, and timid in the pocket way too frequently.
 
awing_pilot said:
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G-U-S F-R-E-R-O-TT-E
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:rofl4: :roflmao: :rofl3:

That avatar is awesome.
 
Boik14 said:
Sorry for that diatribe, it was the oned down version.

Look, almost every play has a deep wr (Z wr) and typically somewhere to dump the ball whether it be the X wr (flanker), TE, or back. He's just got to find his open wr quicker. That fact that he didnt tells me that he he didnt understand the D he was facing or didnt understand the offense. Its 1 or the other. Unless he likes taking a beating.

Bottom line is that short long or intermediate pass...whatever, the same 5 things always affect AJ; locking on, lack of pocket awareness, holding the ball too long, inability to read/understand D's, and timid in the pocket way too frequently.
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fist off what are you talking about he had 3 incompletions and 1 sack... let me tell you the incompletions... dropped pass by derrius thompson on a 3rd and long after 2 innefective runs... next one was a bad pass to chambers... next one was a screen on 3rd down that the defense sniffed out so he just threw it into a linemans back not to lose yards... thats it!! the other 4 passes completions... the rest runs...

when did he not dump the ball off quick enough? the 1 sack were he had to step up to avoid a hit then got hit sticked by urlacher who himself said he came in untouched?

when was AJ holding on to the ball to long, please tell me, i want to know... pleeeeaaase...
 
arsenal said:
fist off what are you talking about he had 3 incompletions and 1 sack... let me tell you the incompletions... dropped pass by derrius thompson on a 3rd and long after 2 innefective runs... next one was a bad pass to chambers... next one was a screen on 3rd down that the defense sniffed out so he just threw it into a linemans back not to lose yards... thats it!! the other 4 passes completions... the rest runs...

when did he not dump the ball off quick enough? the 1 sack were he had to step up to avoid a hit then got hit sticked by urlacher who himself said he came in untouched?

when was AJ holding on to the ball to long, please tell me, i want to know... pleeeeaaase...
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It is the Urlacher play that I am talking about in particular. Last I checked part of being a good qb is reading the D, understanding which blitzers are coming and bluffing. It would behoove him to keep an eye on 54 anytime hes near the line. I mean he avoided the brown rush which was good, held the ball another two seconds and got pounded.
 
Boik14 said:
It is the Urlacher play that I am talking about in particular. Last I checked part of being a good qb is reading the D, understanding which blitzers are coming and bluffing. It would behoove him to keep an eye on 54 anytime hes near the line. I mean he avoided the brown rush which was good, held the ball another two seconds and got pounded.
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Watch the play again....He got free from Brown and got hit as soon as he tried to step up....there was NOT two seconds between those two points.
 
Boik14 said:
It is the Urlacher play that I am talking about in particular. Last I checked part of being a good qb is reading the D, understanding which blitzers are coming and bluffing. It would behoove him to keep an eye on 54 anytime hes near the line. I mean he avoided the brown rush which was good, held the ball another two seconds and got pounded.
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so even so your basing this on ONE play... a play wher eyou cant even see the recievers, you dont know whos open or whos covered, you have no idea whats oging on in the secondary and hes got pressure on him IMMEDIATELY, and based on this you found out all that info? ONE PLAY? woooooooooow...
 
inFINSible said:
Watch the play again....He got free from Brown and got hit as soon as he tried to step up....there was NOT two seconds between those two points.
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I watched it twice, tahts all i needed to. He dropped back, avoide brown by ducking (good), stood up, looked around, went to step up, saw urlacher, and turtled in his shell instead of taking the hit he was going to take anyway and getting rid of the ball.
 
arsenal said:
so even so your basing this on ONE play... a play wher eyou cant even see the recievers, you dont know whos open or whos covered, you have no idea whats oging on in the secondary and hes got pressure on him IMMEDIATELY, and based on this you found out all that info? ONE PLAY? woooooooooow...
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Its called understanding what your watching. you should try it.
 
One thing that was clear to me was that Chicago (Lovie Smith) wanted to win the game more than we did, he played the upper half of his roster longer than we did and he blitzed a lot, Lovie coming from the Dungy school of defense that should not surprise.

Saban did not bother gameplanning this game so the constant blitzing disrupted our offense and our young line.

This is a 5 game horse race and I'm not ready to decide which quarterback I would choose to start right now, if pressed I would give Frerotte a slight edge right now due mostly to his better pocket precence, but its too early to jump to any conclusions.

I hope they do gameplan the Jags, Steelers and Bucs so we can better judge how they execute.
 
arsenal said:
so even so your basing this on ONE play... a play wher eyou cant even see the recievers, you dont know whos open or whos covered, you have no idea whats oging on in the secondary and hes got pressure on him IMMEDIATELY, and based on this you found out all that info? ONE PLAY? woooooooooow...
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Don't you get it?? he got SACKED....No QB should EVER get sacked. It was a HORRIBLE play by Feeley....He should have used his magic shoes and flown straight up into the air to avoid the sack.....until he starts using those shoes, he'll always be a 10th string QB.....:nono:


:goof:
 
Boik14 said:
I watched it twice, tahts all i needed to. He dropped back, avoide brown by ducking (good), stood up, looked around, went to step up, saw urlacher, and turtled in his shell instead of taking the hit he was going to take anyway and getting rid of the ball.
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Taking the sack instead of throwing it up fro grabs is now a bad thing.....Where do you come up with this stuff?? :lol:
 
inFINSible said:
Taking the sack instead of throwing it up fro grabs is now a bad thing.....Where do you come up with this stuff?? :lol:
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Taking the sack is fine...except when you have a second opportunity to throw the ball away. Again, what game are you watching?

Making no point and putting a cute little smiley at the end of you post doesnt make you right or funny
 
When Gus threw that so called underthrown pass he had a LB ON his face,remember they almost ripped his head off ands he just shook him off.....
 
hunter5nc1 said:
What makes me say that Didn't he get taken out of the game :cool:
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He got hit by a blitzing MLB. Do you think he is the first?
 
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