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No, dave, I'll tell you what the real "sin" is..

pigskinguy said:
The satisfaction with medocrity on the this board is astonishing.
Feidler is mediocre but the lineup to defend and love him is a mile long.
Wanny is mediocre but the lineup to defend and love him is a mile long.
This franchise will not get back to greatness until the fans begin to demand greatness.
With the talent on this team the last two years, it is absolutely unacceptable to miss the playoffs twice. Yet Feidler and Wanny were allowed to keep thier jobs and some of you still accept it.
Some of you need to lose the mantra that states...."Well we missed the playoffs but we won 10 games and just missed the playoffs so......"
That's good if you over-achieve with little talent and just missed the post-season. But this team under-achieved the last 2 years.
Talented teams that miss the playoffs is on the back of the coach.
So go ahead and continue to defend Wanny and see where it gets us this year.
Rant over.


Please find one post by anyone that says they were satisified with missing the playoffs. Just one.

This team has not under achieved the last two years. You and people like you have a delusional view of the talent level on this team the last two years.

Some fans claim Fiedler is the worst QB ever and then say the coach had playoff quality talent to work with? Three out of five offensive linemen are OUT OF THE LEAGUE.

People defend Fiedler and Wanny from idiots who claim they are the worst, not from people who claim they are average.
 
Superself said:
I choose not to "go all the way".
Just my opinion that playoff teams are above average while Miami was mediocre last year.

Maybe they had mediocre talent. What does that say about the coaching?
 
pigskinguy said:
The satisfaction with medocrity on the this board is astonishing.
Feidler is mediocre but the lineup to defend and love him is a mile long.
Wanny is mediocre but the lineup to defend and love him is a mile long.
This franchise will not get back to greatness until the fans begin to demand greatness.
With the talent on this team the last two years, it is absolutely unacceptable to miss the playoffs twice. Yet Feidler and Wanny were allowed to keep thier jobs and some of you still accept it.
Some of you need to lose the mantra that states...."Well we missed the playoffs but we won 10 games and just missed the playoffs so......"
That's good if you over-achieve with little talent and just missed the post-season. But this team under-achieved the last 2 years.
Talented teams that miss the playoffs is on the back of the coach.
So go ahead and continue to defend Wanny and see where it gets us this year.
Rant over.

totally agree!
 
FinfanInBuffalo said:
Maybe they had mediocre talent. What does that say about the coaching?

Just that they had mediocre talent at coaching too.

I don't care how you dress Wanny up, IMO he still looks like a turd.
 
FinfanInBuffalo said:
Please find one post by anyone that says they were satisified with missing the playoffs. Just one.

This team has not under achieved the last two years. You and people like you have a delusional view of the talent level on this team the last two years.

Some fans claim Fiedler is the worst QB ever and then say the coach had playoff quality talent to work with? Three out of five offensive linemen are OUT OF THE LEAGUE.

People defend Fiedler and Wanny from idiots who claim they are the worst, not from people who claim they are average.
Not under-achieved; that is the most craziest thing I have heard. Name one team last year that missed the playoffs that had the same amount of talent and pro-bowlers the we had. I am sorry for the amount of talent we had, we did under-achieve. Bottom Line'- head coach sucks. I think that was the real driving reason a certain someone quit on us.
 
Superself said:
Just that they had mediocre talent at coaching too.

I don't care how you dress Wanny up, IMO he still looks like a turd.

Well there you have it. You don't like the way he looks. Maybe Brad Pitt should be the coach.
 
FinfanInBuffalo said:
Please find one post by anyone that says they were satisified with missing the playoffs. Just one.

This team has not under achieved the last two years. You and people like you have a delusional view of the talent level on this team the last two years.

Some fans claim Fiedler is the worst QB ever and then say the coach had playoff quality talent to work with? Three out of five offensive linemen are OUT OF THE LEAGUE.

People defend Fiedler and Wanny from idiots who claim they are the worst, not from people who claim they are average.
Well if you are happy with the status quo than you are happy with missing the playoffs. And you seem to be quite content with the present regime.
Two years ago we had the league's leading rusher and a top 5 defense and still missed the playoffs. If THAT isn't under-achieve then I don't know what the hell is.
I am not going to stoop to your level and call you an idiot to prove my point, but to continue to be happy with Wanny after the last 2 years is a bit laughable.
 
pigskinguy said:
Well if you are happy with the status quo than you are happy with missing the playoffs. And you seem to be quite content with the present regime.
Two years ago we had the league's leading rusher and a top 5 defense and still missed the playoffs. If THAT isn't under-achieve then I don't know what the hell is.
I am not going to stoop to your level and call you an idiot to prove my point, but to continue to be happy with Wanny after the last 2 years is a bit laughable.
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DA DICK said:
Not under-achieved; that is the most craziest thing I have heard. Name one team last year that missed the playoffs that had the same amount of talent and pro-bowlers the we had. I am sorry for the amount of talent we had, we did under-achieve. Bottom Line'- head coach sucks. I think that was the real driving reason a certain someone quit on us.

Name one team that made the playoffs with 3 linemen that should not have been playing.

You do realize that the Dolphins must field an offense and a defense right?

The defense played well last year, it was the offense that was the problem. This year? 7 new starters.

Miami fans seriously over estimate the overall talent level on the team. Carolina and Baltimore were very similar teams to Miami last year. Carolina won one more game and Baltimore was also 10-6.

The difference? Baltimore was in an easier division and their 10-6 record was good enough for the playoffs. Carolina was also in an easier division. Both teams had far superior offensive lines with equal talent on defense. The same could be said of the Cowboys.
 
pigskinguy said:
Well if you are happy with the status quo than you are happy with missing the playoffs. And you seem to be quite content with the present regime.
Two years ago we had the league's leading rusher and a top 5 defense and still missed the playoffs. If THAT isn't under-achieve then I don't know what the hell is.
I am not going to stoop to your level and call you an idiot to prove my point, but to continue to be happy with Wanny after the last 2 years is a bit laughable.

blah, blah, blah....

Two years ago we lost our starting QB and both starting WRs to injuries in the same game, but hey why let reality get in the way of your opinion?
 
FinfanInBuffalo said:
Name one team that made the playoffs with 3 linemen that should not have been playing.

You do realize that the Dolphins must field an offense and a defense right?

The defense played well last year, it was the offense that was the problem. This year? 7 new starters.

Miami fans seriously over estimate the overall talent level on the team. Carolina and Baltimore were very similar teams to Miami last year. Carolina won one more game and Baltimore was also 10-6.

The difference? Baltimore was in an easier division and their 10-6 record was good enough for the playoffs. Carolina was also in an easier division. Both teams had far superior offensive lines with equal talent on defense. The same could be said of the Cowboys.
Yeah but their coaches were better and actually made the offense gel some what. The problem with the line was all on DW and he should have cut them the year before. But no, he felt Ricky was gonna make the OL better and retained them. Good Job DW. When it all comes down to it, it is the coach. Put Tuna in here and I will bet we would make the playoffs. Look at what he did with Dallas last year. The thing with DW he shows no emotion its almosT like he is OK with losing and missing the playoffs.
 
FinfanInBuffalo said:
blah, blah, blah....

Two years ago we lost our starting QB and both starting WRs to injuries in the same game, but hey why let reality get in the way of your opinion?

What exactly has Wanny done to convince you he is so good? You defend him like he Vince Lombardi. In his tenure here he has had 2 playoffs apperances and ONE playoff win. And THAT makes you happy.
You must be giddy with excitment with the prosects for this season. Our "starting QB" is out again and one of our starting WR is out. Season is over. And it will have nothing to do with Wanny and his inability or his refusal to adjust, right?
 
pigskinguy said:
What exactly has Wanny done to convince you he is so good? You defend him like he Vince Lombardi. In his tenure here he has had 2 playoffs apperances and ONE playoff win. And THAT makes you happy.
You must be giddy with excitment with the prosects for this season. Our "starting QB" is out again and one of our starting WR is out. Season is over. And it will have nothing to do with Wanny and his inability or his refusal to adjust, right?
Im serious. She defends him like he is the best thing that ever happened since sliced bread. Mrs. Wannstedt I am sorry but your hubby isnt cut out for the job and the Miami fans want him outta here. So get the Uhaul and get packing.
 
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