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I'll be rooting for My Marlins also. Cabrera should have another big All-Star year as should Dontrelle. I wish we could've signed one name or two this offseason...like Gagne...
 
Alex44 said:
Be prepared, MikeO is going to say something along the lines of: 'Oh and you think Theo wasnt pulling the strings in those few months? That he would come back knowing deals he didnt want were made? He just took a vacation and came back, his fingerprints are all over it :shakeno:'


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Add about 12 more :shakeno: and maybe two or three :sidelol: and you'd be dead on.
 
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I just saw that, it was great talking about his windup

Jim Rome: Is it more about style or is that what you need to do to get it done?

Dontrelle: Im a messed up guy (laughing)

Jim Rome: Has anyone ever tried to change it?

Dontrelle (laughing again) No, its so unorthodox they dont know where to start
 
Alex44 said:
The off season is rapidly drawing to a close and were almost to spring training, almost time for some baseball :yes:

Couple little stories:

Young Marlins Well Armed For 07

Sanchez, Johnson Easing Into Spring Training


The rotation should look something along these lines if everyone stays healthy:

1) Willis
2) Sanchez/Johnson
3) Olsen
4) Johnson/Sanchez
5) Nolasco

I like the idea of switching back and forth between lefty and righty pitchers to keep clubs honest, give them a different look every night. Sanchez is my personal front runner to be the number two guy, but I could also see it going to Johnson. Either way I'd say talent wise our top 4 is as good or better than any in the league, and Nolasco isn't a slouch. If Willis regains his form we could easily have four guys with 16 wins, and Nolasco with around 12. Olsen and Sanchez are by far my two favorite guys, they both have potential so high it just shoots through the roof. Both guys could grow into 20 game winners and All Stars at some point in their career and hopefully they are Marlins when we see that happen. Both guys have nasty stuff and can be unhittable at times (Sanchez showed that last year by actually throwing a no-no). Willis is a somewhat unknown, personally I think he pitched far better than his record last season. He got very little run support and could have won 4 or 5 more games than he did. That said he was wild at times and had his share of struggles. Josh Johnson doesn't have the best stuff but he really knows what to use and when to use it, I don't see the potential that Olsen and Sanchez have in him but even as it is I see him as a 15 to 16 game winner every year. I'm not a Nolasco fan as some of you know....I think he has great stuff for a span of a few innings but then he gets to easy to figure out. I'd love to have another starter step up and give Ricky the closer role.

As for the lineup

1) Hanley: SS
2) Uggla: 2B
3) Cabrera: 3B
4) Jacobs: 1B
5) Willingham: LF
6) Hermida: RF
7) Olivo:C
8) Alex Sanchez: CF (as of now I have him as our CF)
9) Pitcher

Hanley is going to be a stud, he really improved as the season went along his average and power numbers just kept climbing as he gained experience and confidence.

Uggla had an amazing year last season, and lots of people don't know if he can keep it up but I think he can. Even in the minors he could always hit pretty well, fielding is what kept him from being a Major League player and he has made huge strides in that area. Not to mention he has great protection behind him in Miggy.

Cabrera is going to do what he always has, if Jacobs can step up his game some and provide protection for Miggy then I expect Cabrera may have a career year.

Jacobs was really up and down, and I really hope he steps it up. We all know he had some injury problems last year (mainly the ankle) but he is going to be a key piece

Willingham is what he is. A very solid hitter who will struggle from time to time, but he plays hard and if he can be consistent he will be a huge piece for us.

Hermida struggled last year, was injured often and never found his form, but trust me he has great potential if he can stay healthy. I expect him to have a solid year and then take off with a great year in 08.

Olivo really improved his defense but he really needs to get more consistent at the plate. I doubt he will get as many first pitch fastballs this year and he needs to adjust.

Sanchez is a speedy guy, the kind of guy I love as my number 8 hitter. He can get a single, steal a base and have the pitcher bunt him over to third. He has the speed to make things happen.

Overall I think we have the pieces to make a push at the playoffs, and if everything comes together perfect then maybe even the division. We need to not make so many critical mistakes on defense to just give other teams runs. We aren't going to sit there and out slug teams every game so we need to be efficient. Hopefully last years run gave these guys the confidence to keep on rolling.

Here's to an injury free playoff year!
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im expecting big things from our fish this year even if our payroll is really small:cooldude:
 
Alex44 said:
:lol:

I just saw that, it was great talking about his windup

Jim Rome: Is it more about style or is that what you need to do to get it done?

Dontrelle: Im a messed up guy (laughing)

Jim Rome: Has anyone ever tried to change it?

Dontrelle (laughing again) No, its so unorthodox they dont know where to start
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Lol, that's funny. :lol:

I'm hoping D-Train stays a Marlin for life. He's the heart and Soul of this team, IMO.
 
Ben Cherington and Jed Hoyer...

Anyway, you all know how I feel about the Fish. I'll save my official, journalistic comments for whenever I get around to writing a season preview.
 
http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/news...t_id=1792364&vkey=news_fla&fext=.jsp&c_id=fla

Rick Vanden Hurk had a stellar season for the Waikiki BeachBoys in Hawaii Winter Baseball.

The 21-year-old right-hander went 2-2 with a 3.60 ERA and a league-leading 63 strikeouts. He held opponents to a .162 batting average, twice won Player of the Week honors and was named to the HWB All-Star team.
Vanden Hurk led Waikiki to a 2-0 blanking of the Honolulu Sharks in his final start of the season, allowing one hit and one walk with eight strikeouts over five innings.
In 2006, the 6-foot-5 righty from the Netherlands posted a 1.20 ERA in five starts with the Gulf Coast Marlins and had a 2.70 ERA in three starts for the Class A Jupiter Hammerheads. Here's how the rest of the Marlins prospects fared during Winter League action:


Bunch of different young guys in there.
 
Vanden Hurk has always been an interesting prospect but was never on the field enough to show his stuff. If he can stay healthy, he's a very good relief prospect. My concern, though, is how a guy with that many Ks managed an ERA of 3.60. If he walks a lot of guys, that's gotta stop, too, especially with his stuff.
 
RWhitney014 said:
Vanden Hurk has always been an interesting prospect but was never on the field enough to show his stuff. If he can stay healthy, he's a very good relief prospect. My concern, though, is how a guy with that many Ks managed an ERA of 3.60. If he walks a lot of guys, that's gotta stop, too, especially with his stuff.
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Sounds like he can really dominate by those numbers, the era confused me some though. He must have had some controll issues to pitch that well and still have a 3.60 era.

Renyel Pinto was pretty good too which is good news.

Postseason games: 1-0 with a 1.45 ERA and 24 k's. Allowed 6 runs (but only three earned) in 18 2/3 innings.

Regular season: 2-1 with a 3.00 ERA in six games (four starts)

Hopefully he can build off that success.
 
Alex44 said:
Sounds like he can really dominate by those numbers, the era confused me some though. He must have had some controll issues to pitch that well and still have a 3.60 era.

Renyel Pinto was pretty good too which is good news.

Postseason games: 1-0 with a 1.45 ERA and 24 k's. Allowed 6 runs (but only three earned) in 18 2/3 innings.

Regular season: 2-1 with a 3.00 ERA in six games (four starts)

Hopefully he can build off that success.
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Man, if Loria wasn't such a tight-wad, we could pretty much have anyone in the league with out pitching prospects.
 
I'm excited about Pinto, to be honest. The guy's stuff is beyond nasty. The only thing he needs to do is cut down on his walks and he'd be a great fireman. With him and Tank, we could be set on the left-handed side of the pen for a long time.

We just need serious help from the right. In the long run, the hope is that Martinez and Kensing come back, Owens or someone like that graduates to closer, Vanden Hurk and Tucker make it, and on and on. There's no doubt we have tons of good arms in the system...by numbers, some have to become decent relievers.
 
RWhitney014 said:
I'm excited about Pinto, to be honest. The guy's stuff is beyond nasty. The only thing he needs to do is cut down on his walks and he'd be a great fireman. With him and Tank, we could be set on the left-handed side of the pen for a long time.

We just need serious help from the right. In the long run, the hope is that Martinez and Kensing come back, Owens or someone like that graduates to closer, Vanden Hurk and Tucker make it, and on and on. There's no doubt we have tons of good arms in the system...by numbers, some have to become decent relievers.
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Who do you think will be the closer heading into the season? I'm not worried about middle relief so much because we have some very good young arms. I just wonder about who will be closing out games. That could really make or break us.
 
I'm still holding out hope that we make some kind of acquisition. If everyone's healthy, I could see them giving Nolasco a shot. If neither of those, Owens would probably be my first pick. Tank's too good to have closing, and I generally don't like having a lefty as a closer just because it limits who he can pitch to, matchups-wise.
 
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