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Official Josh Norman is a Free Agent – Miami Rumors Super Thread

Remember how OBJ made a joke of our defense last year? That doesn't happen if you have a Josh Norman. Norman shut down OBJ and most other top Wrs. We let them roam free for 200+ yard games.

I don't think Norman is a one-year wonder. He just turned 28. He's in his prime and has gotten better every year. I do have two concerns though.

1. I think the price tag will be too high
2. Part of why he was so good was due to Carolina's whole defensive unit being successful. You get to the qb fast and you don't expose your corners. Last year we had no pass rush and exposed our corners. With enough time to get free it doesn't matter who is on some WRs after a certain amount of time.
 
odds of this for us are 0.0
People also seem to have it in their heads we can also get Talib cheap Anytime we feel like it. This is a team that gave up the 8th pick for maxwells contract..
 
Norman and money vs tailb a late pick at 10 mil per

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I might prefer losing a late round pick and taking on tailb and his contract, 10 mil this year but gets better vs cap years 2-3

What's the deal with Talib? I must have missed something....
 
Ian RapoportVerified account‏@RapSheet

Philosophically, #Panthers GM Dave Gettleman doesn't believe in huge contracts for CBs. Puts the money in the trenches. That's his belief.

No argument there. :clapping:
 
I guess he can say that when he's got 3 of the best players in football on his d without newman even...those 2 lbs and that dt kawann short

Yep and as a whole the Panthers front 7 is ridiculous.
 
Yep and as a whole the Panthers front 7 is ridiculous.

Yep. And thats why I think ultimately it will hurt Norman to go somewhere without a good defensive foundation already in place. It's not that I don't think he's good. But corners obviously thrive in situations where the qb doesn't have as much time to throw.

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I look at it like paying $16 million for a 1st round pick. Because if you get Norman, all of a sudden you don't have to draft CB at 13.
 
Yep. And thats why I think ultimately it will hurt Norman to go somewhere without a good defensive foundation already in place. It's not that I don't think he's good. But corners obviously thrive in situations where the qb doesn't have as much time to throw.

Great point.

Ian Rapoport ‏@AlrightNotBad1 5m5 minutes ago
And It Looks Like The Miami Dolphins Will Have The First Crack At Josh Norman Looks To Visit With Team On Thursday

If we do sign Norman you can toss the press scheme out the window, IMO. But it would also show VJ's willingness to work with a very good player regardless of fit which I would admire.
 
josh norman, one of the best cornerbacks in the nfl, just hit the open market. In an unusual move, the panthers have rescinded the franchise tag on him after coming to the belief that the team and his agent are so far apart on terms that no long-term deal was remotely viable, making him immediately available to the highest bidder.the highest bidder better get the checkbook ready, because from the sounds of it norman is looking for some serious bank.

But just how good is josh norman, and is he worth the dollars he’s chasing?

Norman ended the 2015 season having allowed a passer rating of 54.0, the best mark in the nfl. For much of the season opposing quarterbacks actually had a better passer rating just throwing the ball into the turf than actually targeting norman.

When you include the playoffs, he had the highest coverage grade in the nfl, and ended the season as strong as he began it with fine outings in the playoffs, only for the team to come up short in the super bowl. Norman actually didn’t give up a reception at all in the super bowl, despite being targeted four times.

Counting the super bowl, there were 10 games this season in which norman allowed two or fewer catches. He wasn’t beaten for a catch longer than 36 yards all season long, 19 games of it.


Norman’s coverage numbers were excellent a season ago, and if anything they were even better this year, taking the step into the true shutdown corner realm that demands a big time contract.

There were hiccups to his play, however. His overall season was fantastic, but there was a six-week stretch to end the season that was average at best. His worst game of the season came against odell beckham jr., and while that game will be remembered for norman and beckham losing their discipline entirely and concentrating more on scuffling with each other than playing football, by the time things really went south norman had already been beaten badly on a deep pass that beckham dropped.

Norman did seem to struggle against the speed of beckham before that game became a farce.

That being said, that’s one game against one of the league’s best receivers. Just look at how norman did against some of the other top players in the game last season:

–held deandre hopkins to 2 catches for 24 yards on 7 targets

–held vincent jackson to 2 catches for 31 yards on 6 targets, picking off one pass.

–held mike evans to 1 catch for 15 yards on 5 targets in the other meeting with the bucs.

–held t.y. Hilton to 1 catch for 15 yards on 3 targets, breaking up the other 2.

–held dez bryant to 1 catch for 6 yards on 5 targets.

–held julio jones to 9 catches for 113 yards across 2 games (half jones’ per-game average).


Norman may not be perfect, but last season was about as close to shutdown play as cornerback play gets in today’s nfl.

So which teams should be picking up the phone and moving money around as we speak?

pff
 
Great point.



If we do sign Norman you can toss the press scheme out the window, IMO. But it would also show VJ's willingness to work with a very good player regardless of fit which I would admire.

If we sign him I'll give kudos to tannenbaum even if we overpay. Besides qb, corner is as important position as there is on the field. You win by having your qb play better than the other teams
 
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