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All of them. Cheers, mate.
Once and for all, IT WAS A FORWARD PASS!
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THE OG CANEPHINS
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The difference is this was a scoring play, so IF they are reviewing they are reviewing to make sure Brown scored. That would only cover him running down the sideline and crossing the endzone.
If this happened outside of 2 min then Philbin could throw the challenge flag to have them review whether it was #5 or not. In this case the booth would have to call for the review on #5 and there is no given they would because, as stated before, this was a scoring play. There is a distinction between different parts of the play.
If this happened outside of 2 min then Philbin could throw the challenge flag to have them review whether it was #5 or not. In this case the booth would have to call for the review on #5 and there is no given they would because, as stated before, this was a scoring play. There is a distinction between different parts of the play.
Why the hell we arguing with a Jets fan over this? You all know he's going to spin it his way and cry about how we're a bunch of aqua-glasses wearing homers when we don't agree with his usual nonsense. Last I checked, we weren't playing the Jets this week...and when we do, we kick their butts in their own stadium. :3w:
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Does anybody have a picture or GIF of the rapist's lateral?
Well he did "scan" through his "recording" of the fins game so that makes his opinion more knowledgeable than us finfans who watched every second of every play.
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I don't have the ALL-22 package this season, but I'm told that on the coaches' film it's clearly a forward pass, though not by much. That play was not a touchdown on three different counts.
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I think nyjunc is pretty accurate here. I mean, the part I disagree with him on is that it's clear as day to me that that WAS a forward lateral, but it was close. I highly doubt the refs overturn that if Brown doesn't step out of the endzone. Then all non-Dolphins fans go "lol your players shouldn't have been walking around on the last play of the game if they wanted to win"(and they damn well shouldn't have been) and ignore the fact that the refs ****ed up multiple times on that one play. And we are damn lucky he stepped out. Sure, good job Clemons forcing him towards the sideline, but WTF he didn't even manage to touch the guy as he ran past him, it's lucky as hell that Brown carelessly stepped half an inch out of bounds on his way into the endzone.
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everyone just jogging around waiting for someone else to make the play. BS effort!!!
Well Coyle just came out and said they weren't set at the line prior to that play starting. So that, coupled with the obvious forward pass should be enough to shut up the haters in this thread. Probably being too optimistic in that regard however...
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Doing the Pee Wee dance...
It was close but I watched it in slow mo on the big screen last night about 5X and I don't think it would have been called - but that ball was released on the 32, Ben's momentum took him forward to foster the illusion of a lateral, and was caught about the 33.5yd line. Still I think we would have been **** out of luck on that one...and that it never should have come to that
Very good summary. The posters who are asserting that it wasn't incredibly lucky are making absolute fools of themselves. The odds of Brown essentially running himself out of bounds are extremely low, if not next to nothing. How often do you see that, a skill player running by himself and stepping on the sideline? After all, the gap between Brown and Clemons is much greater than the distance of the forward lateral. Not even close. Brown has at least two feet separation on Clemons and even if he's going to contact Clemons it's hardly a certainty that Clemons will nudge him out. Clemons is stumbling around on the snow covered area while Brown is cruising on the cleared green section.
For some reason there's a weekly desperation here to pretend that we are screwed by the refs. That's the underlying reason nobody wants to concede that we were fortunate. It's more laughable than anything else. Players are not fully set all the time, just like virtually every team on every kickoff is slightly offside. Those plays don't get called. Same with players shuffling in motion while moving slightly forward toward the line of scrimmage. That's technically illegal but is never called.
We were small underdogs in that game. If Brown manages basic normalcy and runs a straight line, we were massive underdogs to have the play reversed based on a forward lateral. The NFL doesn't nitpick on plays like that. It has to be clear cut, i.e. basically a half yard or more. This was more like inches.
As nyjunc pointed out, this would have been an all time famous and embarrassing loss, and with all the spotlight falling on our players and how they basically didn't try.
Watch the end of the Ohio State/Northwestern game from a couple months ago, or the Oklahoma/Oklahoma State game from a few days ago, for examples on how the lateral type plays should be attacked and obliterated. We ignorantly retreated into read, react and jog mode, and should have paid for it. I had $2350 riding on one more win and I'm not pretending that I was anything but lucky.
Love the fact we got the win, but I am not sure they would have gone back to review this after the refs missed the call. They wold have reviewed whether Brown stepped out or not, but I doubt they would have gone back through the whole play to reveal they missed the fact that Big Ben threw the ball forward.
The refs have been pretty bad this year and it has cost us in a couple of our losses. This would have hurt the most as it would have pretty much killed our season.
I said as the play was going on it was a forward lateral. Want to know how I can tell? Look at #76 for Pittsburgh. He's right next to Rapeberger. The only way for Rapeberger to throw a lateral around #76 would be to throw it forward (since he can't throw it through him).