Penn State: Punitive Measures announced Monday

[Bumpus]

The last 14 years of JoePa's wins ERASED.

A fitting posthumous **** you for all he REALLY cared about.

 

[Clipse]

What an absolute joke! Countless children had their lives ruined by unspeakable actions and PSU had to sit out 4yrs of being embarrassed in the Outback Bowl! Just curious what is the NCAA going to do with the money from the finger? Are they going to start a trust for the victims? More then likely they will be out private jet shopping and Nike will stroke a check to cover the fine!Look at the excuses to protect the Big Ten? What a bunch of ****!Oh and vacating wins is about the most worthless meaningless punishment there is!

Doesn't look like the money goes to the victims, but rather support programs that deal with child sex abuse. Victims could probably get even more than that should the lawsuits start coming.

 

[MD]

Save the ranting Ryan. This is worse then the death penalty and if you had actually listened you would know the fine comes from football revenues not boosters.

There is no way you can ever give back the victims their lives before these egregious acts but this is a strong message for the future.

 

[CO-Gator]

Sure enough, no shutting down the program for any seasons. The sanctions will hurt and they might be reduced to Indiana status for some time, but PSU can recover from this. Wonder who all decides to leave.

 

[Clipse]

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/53632/big-ten-to-impose-own-penalties-on-psu

INDIANAPOLIS -- The NCAA has had its say on Penn State. Now it's the Big Ten's turn.

The Big Ten will announce its own punishment for Penn State for massive failings during the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal at the school. University of Iowa president Sally Mason, the chair of the Big Ten's Council of Presidents/Chancellors, will discuss the penalties along with league commissioner Jim Delany at 11 a.m. ET. Big Ten presidents and chancellors announced their own investigation into the problems at Penn State back in December.

What will the Big Ten do? The NCAA already has hammered Penn State with heavy scholarship losses, fines and a four-year postseason ban. ESPN.com has learned the Big Ten doesn't want to be redundant with its penalties. Unlike the NCAA, which collaborated with Penn State in advance of Monday's announcement, the Big Ten will act on its own.

The big question is whether the Big Ten will expel Penn State. My conversations with league sources indicate this will not happen, although the presidents considered the option. Big Ten bylaws state 70 percent of the league's presidents -- in this case, nine of 12 -- must vote for Penn State's removal to trigger expulsion.

 

[CO-Gator]

What an absolute joke! Countless children had their lives ruined by unspeakable actions and PSU has to sit out 4yrs of being embarrassed in the Outback Bowl! Just curious what is the NCAA going to do with the money from the fine? Are they going to start a trust for the victims? More then likely they will be out private jet shopping and Nike will stroke a check to cover the fine!Look at the excuses to protect the Big Ten? What a bunch of ****!Oh and vacating wins is about the most worthless meaningless punishment there is!

Something tells me that no matter what the penalties were, you would have been upset about it.

 

[flynryan15]

Something tells me that no matter what the penalties were, you would have been upset about it.

Take a step back and look at the message it sends! Do you think one victim watched that get released and feels like justice was served? Seriously some worthless wins vacated and a 4yr bowl ban? Wow PSU can't make its annual trip to the Citrus Bowl for a embarrassment. Do you really want to argue saving a institutions right to play a game versus child rape?

 

[Gonzo]

Save the ranting Ryan. This is worse then the death penalty and if you had actually listened you would know the fine comes from football revenues not boosters.

There is no way you can ever give back the victims their lives before these egregious acts but this is a strong message for the future.

And make no mistake, the victims will be getting plenty from the school through their lawsuits, which are only supported by this punishment.

 

[flynryan15]

Save the ranting Ryan. This is worse then the death penalty and if you had actually listened you would know the fine comes from football revenues not boosters.

There is no way you can ever give back the victims their lives before these egregious acts but this is a strong message for the future.

Spare me the fine is a joke the program probably generated a hundred times that during those years! Wake up the scholarship losses isn't that big of deal either schools work around that penalty all the time.

 

[Bumpus]

Take a step back and look at the message it sends! Do you think one victim watched that get released and feels like justice was served? Seriously some worthless wins vacated and a 4yr bowl ban? Wow PSU can't make its annual trip to the Citrus Bowl for a embarrassment. Do you really want to argue saving a institutions right to play a game versus child rape?

Actually, I think considering the NCAA's power here, it DOES send a message.

"We'll destroy the winningest coach in our sport. What do you think we'll do to YOU if you step out of line?"
... the legend is no more.



It's not like the NCAA can stab the offenders in the groin. (would be nice, but outside their authority )

I'm not exactly sure what you wanted them to do. Death penalty? Meh, none of the parties involved are still there.

 

[flynryan15]

Actually, I think considering the NCAA's power here, it DOES send a message.

"We'll destroy the winningest coach in our sport. What do you think we'll do to YOU if you step out of line?"
... the legend is no more.



It's not like the NCAA can stab the offenders in the groin. (would be nice, but outside their authority )

I'm not exactly sure what you wanted them to do. Death penalty? Meh, none of the parties involved are still there.

Yep death penalty absolutely! Firing offenders should not lesson a punishment. The problem here is on the surface the NCAA makes an announcement claiming stiffest punishment ever then after the out cry for justice settles the NCAA lightens the punishment during the appeal process. Take USC for example 2yr bowl ban, and loss of 30 scholarships over a 3yr period. Then later the NCAA decided to not enforce the loss of scholarships till after the bowl ban.

 

[dreday]

wow,penn state on a 186 game losing streak!

 

[Clipse]

Yep death penalty absolutely! Firing offenders should not lesson a punishment. The problem here is on the surface the NCAA makes an announcement claiming stiffest punishment ever then after the out cry for justice settles the NCAA lightens the punishment during the appeal process. Take USC for example 2yr bowl ban, and loss of 30 scholarships over a 3yr period. Then later the NCAA decided to not enforce the loss of scholarships till after the bowl ban.

Let's not compare 80 scholarships to 30. Not to mention Penn State can only sign 15 a year instead of 25 so if more than 15 kids leave each year for graduation, the draft, transfer, etc. too bad. Penn State isn't working around these sanctions. They're ****ed for a damn long time. Probably won't even be in the Big 10 in a few years after being incapable of being competitive in the conference. This is worse than shutting down the program for a couple years.

 

[MD]

Spare me the fine is a joke the program probably generated a hundred times that during those years! Wake up the scholarship losses isn't that big of deal either schools work around that penalty all the time.

Bro, they decimated the program. This isn't a few Schollies like Ohio State. They lose 10 initially and 20 total for 3 additional years. Nobody will want to attend that school in fact, one recruit has already decommitted. All players are eligible to transfer without penalty and schools can go over their limit to accommodate PSU transfers.

This is far worse then what the death penalty would have been.

 

[MD]

Yep death penalty absolutely! Firing offenders should not lesson a punishment. The problem here is on the surface the NCAA makes an announcement claiming stiffest punishment ever then after the out cry for justice settles the NCAA lightens the punishment during the appeal process. Take USC for example 2yr bowl ban, and loss of 30 scholarships over a 3yr period. Then later the NCAA decided to not enforce the loss of scholarships till after the bowl ban.

Yes USC got around the scholarship reduction by having time to stock up but Penn State is not appealling. No comparison.