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Geno faced the tougher D on the road in a huge game for his opponent. Ryan faced a decent D, at home, w/ more talent around him in a win and in game. No matter what way you slice it Geno comes out on top.

This doesn't mean geno was better last season b/c he wasn't but I take it as a positive sign that Geno progressed late in the year and Ryan regressed.

Only you would come away with such BS. The Jets showed up hyped, motivated, ready to play. The Dolphins didn't and it showed. Rex Ryan is a better motivator BY FAR than Philbin...no secret there.

No matter what you come up with, Geno Vs. Ryan isn't even reality. Jets offense had a better day than the Dolphins offense, and they won the game. Many of the Jets players out-hustled the Dolphins that day, no doubt about it.

But to say that because of that game, Tannehill is regressing and Geno is a progressing, is laughable at very best. Ryan's best game of the year was 2 games prior against the Pats. Sure sounds like regression eh? During that same week, Geno was what...53% completions 1 TD / 1 INT? RT was injured those last 2 games by the way...

Geno's (or the Jets offense's) best performances were in the first half of the season, particularly the game against the Falcons, so how is that progression?

But you go ahead believing in QB Head-to-Head...conveniently forget about the first game where Geno and Jets threw up a stellar 8.3 QBR.
 
when have I ever said anything like this and you think Geno had more talent around him in week 17 than Ryan did? seriously?

I see things realistically whether it's positive or negative towards my team and your team. sorry it bothers you.

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good thing we don't just look at boxscores b/c Ryan was horrible and geno was good. he badly outplayed him in the biggest game of Ryan's life.

One QB's performance means nothing compared to another QB's performance. It means the defense played better.

Regardless, none of this makes any difference to my statement. Geno is not even the 4th best QB in this division. One game will not change that. That is reality.
 
I am sorry you have no clue what you are watching and think you need to see great fantasy #s to think a player played well. Did you know Peyton manning threw for almost 300 yards in the Super Bowl! he must have been great!
Manning had almost 300yds passing? I would say he had a horrible game. Lmao
 
I am sorry you have no clue what you are watching and think you need to see great fantasy #s to think a player played well. Did you know Peyton manning threw for almost 300 yards in the Super Bowl! he must have been great!

I'm not the idiot that thinks a zero TD 190 yard day is a "good" performance
 
Only you would come away with such BS. The Jets showed up hyped, motivated, ready to play. The Dolphins didn't and it showed. Rex Ryan is a better motivator BY FAR than Philbin...no secret there.

No matter what you come up with, Geno Vs. Ryan isn't even reality. Jets offense had a better day than the Dolphins offense, and they won the game. Many of the Jets players out-hustled the Dolphins that day, no doubt about it.

But to say that because of that game, Tannehill is regressing and Geno is a progressing, is laughable at very best. Ryan's best game of the year was 2 games prior against the Pats. Sure sounds like regression eh? During that same week, Geno was what...53% completions 1 TD / 1 INT? RT was injured those last 2 games by the way...

Geno's (or the Jets offense's) best performances were in the first half of the season, particularly the game against the Falcons, so how is that progression?

But you go ahead believing in QB Head-to-Head...conveniently forget about the first game where Geno and Jets threw up a stellar 8.3 QBR.


why is that an excuse? why would the Jets, w/ nothing to play for, show up more motivated and hyped than Miami battling for their first playoff app since 2008? why does a team need a coach to motivate in that scenario? shouldn't supposed leaders like Ryan make sure the team(at least his O) is ready to play?

I said late in the year geno progressed, Ryan regressed. There's really no argument against that. I didn't say Ryan would keep going backward or that geno would keep going forward but that is what happened late in 2013.

Ohhhhh Ryan was injured, that's the latest excuse:lol2: did he play? he's judged on what he did on the field and it was awful.

Keep looking at statlines, I'll watch the games.

Geno was awful most of the year, he had a great game at Atlanta but that was blip. he was terrible most of the first 3 qtrs. of the year outside of that game. the last qtr of the season he played his best football BY FAR.


what does the first game have to do w/ anything? was that in the final qtr of the year like I discussed? and keep looking at #s b/c Ryan stunk in that game too, he kept us in a game that should have been over by halftime.

One QB's performance means nothing compared to another QB's performance. It means the defense played better.

Regardless, none of this makes any difference to my statement. Geno is not even the 4th best QB in this division. One game will not change that. That is reality.

who is ahead of him that geno isn't 4th? the guy he will likely beat out for the starting job?

Geno could be 2nd, 3rd, 4th or worse- we'll see but the biggest difference in that week 17 game was the play at QB. One guy stepped up and the other stepped back just as he did the week before.

I'm not the idiot that thinks a zero TD 190 yard day is a "good" performance

The funny thing is you think this is a compliment towards you.

You have said enough to know how much you understand of this game.
 
An unproven offensive line missing its best player is a recipe for disaster. I hope they are not the 31st ranked team in the world, but if a team cannot score points, the results are not usually good.
 
who is ahead of him that geno isn't 4th? the guy he will likely beat out for the starting job?

Geno could be 2nd, 3rd, 4th or worse- we'll see but the biggest difference in that week 17 game was the play at QB. One guy stepped up and the other stepped back just as he did the week before.

safe to say Vick and Matt Moore are better qb's than geno.

and what a joke. geno did nothing to help the jets win that game.

good teams lose to bad teams all the time. that's why they play. you have no leg to stand on. keep bringing up 1 game from last year. I know it helps you sleep at night. Geno sucks. That's reality.
 
safe to say Vick and Matt Moore are better qb's than geno.

and what a joke. geno did nothing to help the jets win that game.

good teams lose to bad teams all the time. that's why they play. you have no leg to stand on. keep bringing up 1 game from last year. I know it helps you sleep at night. Geno sucks. That's reality.

Vick I can agree w/, Matt Moore I don't. Moore is a "good" QB on bad teams, he has never done anything in this league to prove he can start and win on good teams. any GM would rather have the unknown of Geno over the known of Moore.

Geno did a lot to help the Jets win, maybe not as much as Ryan helped us but the man made big throws and also had big runs.

Good teams don't score 7 pts the last 2 weeks of the season combined to inferior teams and blow a playoff spot. Miami was like NYJ and Buf- all mediocre teams.


Geno did suck most of last year but in Ryan's biggest game and Miami's biggest game in years Geno stepped up and played well. Now Geno is in year 2 of this system(something Ryan never had to worry about) and has MUCH more talent to work with we will see if he can play in this league.
 
Jets looking to spoil Miami's playoff dreams

why is that an excuse? why would the Jets, w/ nothing to play for, show up more motivated and hyped than Miami battling for their first playoff app since 2008? why does a team need a coach to motivate in that scenario? shouldn't supposed leaders like Ryan make sure the team(at least his O) is ready to play?
If you are referring to the Jets not going to the playoffs, then yes, the Jets had nothing to play for. However the Jets were plenty motivated to not only spoil the rival Dolphins chances at the playoffs but to avenge what was perhaps their worse overall performance of the season.

Some of the quotes prior to the game
http://nypost.com/2013/12/28/jets-looking-to-spoil-miamis-playoff-dreams/
“This team whipped us probably more than anyone in the league,’’ Ryan said Friday. “Our worst performance was against Miami. We’re looking forward to this game. With all they have to play for, we’ll know if we’ve improved, because we know we’ll get their best.’’
“We’re always going to try to win the game, but there’s nothing wrong with being the spoiler and crushing their dreams,’’ defensive tackle Muhammad Wilkerson said.

“They beat us — pillar to post — in our own house,’’ rookie defensive tackle Sheldon Richardson said. “It’s always cool playing the spoiler. If you’re not going to the playoffs, most definitely it’s fun to make the game out of something, make like you’re playing for something.’’
 
Ryan Tannehill played like total **** week 17, that was the reason we lost and the only reason we lost. The plays were there, Wallace wide open for an easy TD, Tannehill sliding a yard short of the first, etc, etc, but we didn't make them and who knows how a few of those plays could change the whole dynamic of the game.
 
If you are referring to the Jets not going to the playoffs, then yes, the Jets had nothing to play for. However the Jets were plenty motivated to not only spoil the rival Dolphins chances at the playoffs but to avenge what was perhaps their worse overall performance of the season.

Some of the quotes prior to the game
http://nypost.com/2013/12/28/jets-looking-to-spoil-miamis-playoff-dreams/

so you think that trumps playing for a playoff spot?

Ryan Tannehill played like total **** week 17, that was the reason we lost and the only reason we lost.

I wouldn't say the only reason but it was way up there on the list.
 
With one key injury, We're an 11-loss team. Brandon Albert goes down, Tannehill gets killed and loses confidence like he did in weeks 16 & 17 last year.

Things are very tenuous. Everything must go perfectly for Miami to win even 10 games. That could happen but, sadly, the odds don't favor us. We're kinda the least talented team in our division, just from a personnel standpoint. If Manuel = Tannehill, Buffalo is WAY more talented. Sammy Watson and that running game?
Not trolling.
 
We have to hope Geno Smith doesn't take a step forward, but I don't get how NY even won 8 games last year with that WR corps. Yet they did. They're a tough-minded, gritty team.

Viewed with any impassionate, objective analysis, Miami is Really Up Against It this year.
We need one more perfect draft to get our O-line back to the + side of average. We're a C- right now. If that gets to a 'D', we'll lose 11 games.
We had a LOT of holes as of Jan 1, 2014. Few got filled.
 
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