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Pro and Con list of Tuanigamanuolepola Tagovailoa

Even his name is horrible. JK Tua lovers. Don't get your collective panties in a bunch.
Tua hasnt been horrible thus far. Just mediocre.

I await all the wonderful retorts from the lynch mob for simply having an opinion that is not theirs. BTW I still support Tua but I also think he needs better competition and needs to prove all the haters wrong this year. I love his accuracy but I think he is injury prone and makes boneheaded mistakes. He forces the ball too much at times which leads to most of his interceptions.
...when you pretend you're not being a douche
 
I do not think most understand how bad his OL has been in his two years in Miami.

Lack of time to throw, lack of confidence in having time to throw and bad down and distance situations due to ZERO running game will give a young QB bad habits and it might just affect his play.

Tua has not been given a fair evaluation in the NFL, with an improved(still not great but much better)OL and more weapons around him we should find out what we need to know about Tua this season.
 
Even his name is horrible. JK Tua lovers. Don't get your collective panties in a bunch.
Tua hasnt been horrible thus far. Just mediocre.

I await all the wonderful retorts from the lynch mob for simply having an opinion that is not theirs. BTW I still support Tua but I also think he needs better competition and needs to prove all the haters wrong this year. I love his accuracy but I think he is injury prone and makes boneheaded mistakes. He forces the ball too much at times which leads to most of his interceptions.
As a Pacific Islander, making fun of his name even if it’s just a stupid ass joke isn’t funny and makes you look ignorant. Idiot.
 
Nope. But try again.
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After rewatching every snap of his from rookie year and last year. Wanted to put a list of his pros and cons from my own point of view. Everyone may have a different view, but thought to post them.

PROS
  • Top level pocket presence. Can move in and out of the pocket with finesse and usually is always feeling pressure before it gets there. Rarely gets sacked even though he has one of the worst lines in NFL history.
  • Very decisive when he makes a decision. Doesn't question himself and throws with confidence when he understands and knows the ask of the scheme and the defense he's going against.
  • Extremely instinctual and can read defenses presnap at a high level. Knows how to attack different leverages and coverages.
  • Sneaky athletic and can get cheap first downs with ease.
  • Very aggressive downfield passer, even though media doesn't believe it and his offense didn't allow it last season because of Flores, the offensive line and lack of weapons. Even his OC said they cant go deep because the o-line can't protect.
  • Accuracy is top level.
  • When he is able to play point guard on offense, choosing exactly where to go with the ball based on his eyes and instincts, he's on fire.

CONS

  • Very VERY inconsistent with his footwork and mechanics over last two years. Which is the opposite of him at Bama, when he had some of the most pure footwork and mechanics. His faulty mechanics and footwork at times leads him not to use his lower body to transfer his weight to throw and then he has to use all arm, which make throws sail over the middle or sometimes not get to the target.
  • Sometimes locks into his presnap read and falls in love with it. Needs to do a better job of adapting post-snap when the presnap look changes post snap. Gets him into trouble. And he has to fix this.
  • As a result of being overaggressive with the ball, he will try to force balls in windows downfield when he can take the easier route underneath. It got to the point where the offensive scheme last season rarely had anyone going deep and when they did he would try and force it because his natural instinct is to go downfield and deep.
  • Makes a few bonehead decisions, which are a result of him locking into his presnap reads and being overaggressive.
  • Sometimes will not rush for the first down when its there and instead try a throw and it'll fall incomplete.
  • In the RPOs, he would tend to lean into the P of the play when he needed to hand it off based on the reads. He wanted to move the ball downfield so badly that he would try and overcompensate with throwing the ball as much as possible instead of relying on the run game.
  • Wasn't trusting his eyes and wouldn't let it rip in the beginning of the season. As the season went on he did start trusting it more.
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If Tua can get his mechanics and footwork back to what it was at Bama, he will shine. He was one of the most aggressive downfield passers in NCAA history. You don't just lose that when you go to the NFL. It's a combination of not trusting his hip, not trusting his coaches, and not trusting his receivers and skill players. He needs to go back to that version of himself.

And I think with better coaching he will stop locking onto presnap reads and trust his eyes more. Which again will result in Bama Tua.

It's just crazy when people say Tua can't go deep or downfield. That was literally his game at Alabama mixed with intermediate and short passing.

He doesn't have the strongest arm in the NFL but you don't need that if you have accuracy and anticipation at a high level.

All in all, he needs to hone his mechanics, footwork, and keep getting better with his presnap and postsnap reads. He needs to trust his ability and coaching, which the last 2 years was the worst possible environment to do that.
Well done my friend, :hclap::hclap::hclap:
 
I do not think most understand how bad his OL has been in his two years in Miami.

Lack of time to throw, lack of confidence in having time to throw and bad down and distance situations due to ZERO running game will give a young QB bad habits and it might just affect his play.

Tua has not been given a fair evaluation in the NFL, with an improved(still not great but much better)OL and more weapons around him we should find out what we need to know about Tua this season.

Absolutely! You're hoping this plus still recovering from the hip injury were the main factors in his body mechanics and feet inconsistency problems.

Logically it sounds like with everything we've acquired on paper AND Tua's health continuing to improve the kid should make a huge leap.

Here's to hoping that's what happens.
 
Talk about your brain playing tricks on you...

I'm not saying that is the case.

I'm just joking around. When you say, improve his pre and post snap reads, footwork, ect it makes it sound like all the things a QB needs to do.
 
Yep. Flo should have never started him the year he was drafted and then continued to try ruin him with his obsession with dw.
I honestly was shocked that he was starting, like what really!. I was fully in the, "he needs to heal up even more, I mean even Mahomes didn't start his first year and he wasn't injured!"
 
...when you pretend you're not being a douche

Self proclaimed douche right here. Want to fight about it? I think I can take you. Maybe... probably not. Might still try though. Run it old man.


P.S. - I was just kidding and being a douche.
 
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I agree on the scrambling part.

I believe if Tua can utilize his athleticism and take that 8 yard run on 3rd and 6, the offense will open up alot more. It was there for him for the taking last year.

He needs to show it more this year.
 
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