Question for the sky is falling crowd........

[DeathStar]

You guys will defend this team in interesting ways...

Comparing us to the Patsies....LOL

 

[NJ Dolphan]

Tom Brady led Patriots teams have won three Super Bowls, have made it to two more, and have won the AFC East virtually every year that he's been there. He's done this, at times, with very average running backs, mediocre wide receivers, and defenses that have given up a lot of points. His physical abilities have not declined to the point that he is not a good quarterback anymore, although perhaps he's not as good as he used to be. He is obviously a first ballot Hall of Famer and is in the top five, or at worst top ten QBs of all time.

Ryan Tannehill is a QB that constantly gives excuses for not winning games he should, has a losing record to this point in his career, and who, at his best, is an average NFL quarterback. When he can at least finish a season above .500 then he'll be entitled to a mulligan or two during a particular season, and maybe he can be mentioned in appendix of an encyclopedia that's devoted to Tom Brady. Until then the Tannehill fan boys don't have anything to hang their hats on.

 

[LDaniel7]

 

[BlueFin]

Read the whole thread....I admitted that wasn't a perfect example later...however...the point is valid that you don't give up after two weeks...one of which wasn't too awful unless you are a loser.

 

[DuderinoN703]

Different scheme...Different O-line....we have to see it fully play out before intelligent decisions can be made about the future.

Criticize?....yes....but give up?...too early.

But if the scheme is producing similar results, in this case poor ones, all you can do is see the same trends occurring from last year. The season isn't over of course but I don't expect anything better than 7-9.

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

Read the whole thread....I admitted that wasn't perfect example later...however...the point is valid that you don't give up after two weeks...one of which wasn't too awful unless you are a loser.

or not really a fan...

 

[DuderinoN703]

And I really don't get why people bring up the last 30 years and all sort of past failures when judging what is happening now. This is a new year. New GM, new system, many new players. Others young and still developing. Nothing is written. Shouldn't we watch more than two games before going mental, especially when one of those games was a huge win???

Past failures are nothing more than a ghost that haunts some people's nightmares, they have no power over the present. Do you really believe because Fiedler didn't have enough talent or the defense couldn't help the Marino teams that this year's team is doomed after a loss to Buffalo? Does Wannested have Philbin's ear? Seriously, people, just listen to yourselves.

The past is 100% relevant b/c the Dolphins for 20 years haven't made it to the AFC Championship Game. It's one thing for the Pats and Brady since they've been there before, it's one thing for Seattle, San Fran, New Orleans, Green Bay, hell even Indianapolis.....because at least they've had success in the recent past vs. their mediocrity just prior.

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Its an ADD riddled, instant gratification needing culture in 21st century America. So, if the phins have allegedly been irrelevant for decades then shouldn't New England, Baltimore, Denver, Seattle, potsburgh, & San Francisco be judged more harshly?

Yet, in the Pacific NW, I doubt they are calling for R Wilson & P Carroll to be gutted like the catch of the day @ Pikes Place.

That said, The theme song for this site (especially after phins losses) s/b Metallica's Poor twisted me.

You're kind of making my point for me. Why isn't Seattle calling for Wilson to go and Carroll to jump off a pier? Same goes for Brees and Payton. Luck and Pagano. Why is that?

And then once you answer that, why do people want Tannehill and Philbin gone in Miami?

 

[Dolphins7273]

Speak for yourself...I saw the perfect season.

I also have watched this game long enough to know you don't quit after 2 games with a 1-1 start....unless you are truly of a loser mentality.

Fine, you saw the perfect season, and another SB after that. Good for you. You have nothing to complain about the rest of your life, but those of us who are now 30 freakin' years old are still yet to see this team do anything. I started watching this team when I was 9 years old, and I'm still yet to see them get past the second round. People in their teens have yet to see them win a playoff game. And it's not just "Quitting after a couple of games", we pretty much know what we've got in Tannehill right now, in his third year.

 

[Awsi Dooger]

I was shocked when I saw the name attached to the OP. He should know better than a comparison of this type, and plenty of posters appropriately let him know about it.

Patriots on the road after a loss is as close to a certainty as we have these days in the NFL. It remains to be seen how good they are in normal weeks. Brady's arm still looks fine but his downfield accuracy is not what it used to be. That's the primary concern I've heard from two friends who are New England fans, along with how much Wilfork has left, and whether too many marginal players are starting on the offensive line.

As far as anyone who saw the Perfect Season not having anything to complain about, that's rubbish. I'm sickened that younger fans get stuck with a stadium like this, instead of a rollicking venue that dictates outcomes and brings out the passion and ferocity of the entire community. I hated to leave the Orange Bowl area after all those dominant wins by the Dolphins and Canes.

 

[enigmatics]

I was shocked when I saw the name attached to the OP. He should know better than a comparison of this type, and plenty of posters appropriately let him know about it.

Patriots on the road after a loss is as close to a certainty as we have these days in the NFL. It remains to be seen how good they are in normal weeks. Brady's arm still looks fine but his downfield accuracy is not what it used to be. That's the primary concern I've heard from two friends who are New England fans, along with how much Wilfork has left, and whether too many marginal players are starting on the offensive line.

As far as anyone who saw the Perfect Season not having anything to complain about, that's rubbish. I'm sickened that younger fans get stuck with a stadium like this, instead of a rollicking venue that dictates outcomes and brings out the passion and ferocity of the entire community. I hated to leave the Orange Bowl area after all those dominant wins by the Dolphins and Canes.

I heard about the stat on those Patriots bounce backs after losses, something like 22 out of their last 25 were victories.

 

[FearTheBeard]

Past failures don't influence future outcomes, it just feels that way since we've endured such crap over the years. I just find it shocking anyone can draw a conclusion this quickly and be so adamant about it, when in reality if we enter the bye 3-1 everyone will just flip. Haven't we watched enough football to know there's ups and downs and not to get too high or too low at the drop of a pin?

 

[DuderinoN703]

Past failures don't influence future outcomes, it just feels that way since we've endured such crap over the years. I just find it shocking anyone can draw a conclusion this quickly and be so adamant about it, when in reality if we enter the bye 3-1 everyone will just flip. Haven't we watched enough football to know there's ups and downs and not to get too high or too low at the drop of a pin?

The Dolphins were 3-1 at one point last year too. Hell they went 5-8 after starting 3-0. No one has said what happened last year or in years past will influence this team. It's the losing trend the last 20 years we're referring to.

 

[mwestberry]

YAAAAAWN....he said again and again and......

 

[tay0365]

I don't get why people bring up when successful teams lose and compare it to the Dolphins. Miami hasn't done anything in 30 years. They get no benefit of the doubt. New England, Seattle, San Francisco, teams like these have gotten to places Miami hasn't in 20+ years. To be fans of those teams is completely different than us here.

Problem is that the fans for the 49ers continued to believe after losing the year before and getting Harbaugh, same happened with those Seahawks, who's Stadium continued to be one of the loudest, even after having a terrible prior year.

Fans can be the 12th man, and help their team considerably, but fans giving up on a season after only 2 games is nothing less then pathetic.

 

[phins_4_ever]

Let's all hold hands and sing kumbaya. All will be good.

Note to the OP:
There is no sky falling. I haven't seen a football sky in a decade. Nor a horizon. As a Dolphins fan I walk in a patch of fog for forever now.