You contribute NOTHING to a Dolphins fan board...troll.
Pathetic.
Edit: Following you? No, just happen to see your BS on most threads I read...don't give yourself that much credit troll.
Rank Tannehill Among Young QB's?
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You contribute NOTHING to a Dolphins fan board...troll.
Pathetic.
Edit: Following you? No, just happen to see your BS on most threads I read...don't give yourself that much credit troll.
truedolfan57
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You know, it's tough to ignore the troll when people keep quoting his garbage posts. Please stop quoting the troll.
Oh really...he had a good supporting cast troll...based on what?...your propaganda?
Bottom half of league....rushing, pass protect and stopping the run.
Please...can some Troll Jet fan tell me when the last Super bowl Champion ranked that low in those categories??????????
I'll hold Mr breath waiting for you Junc........
I or nobody I've seen says Tannehill is there yet, but to suggest his supporting cast was good enough is ridiculous and certainly blantantly unfair.
Bottom half of league....rushing, pass protect and stopping the run.
Please...can some Troll Jet fan tell me when the last Super bowl Champion ranked that low in those categories??????????
I'll hold Mr breath waiting for you Junc........
I or nobody I've seen says Tannehill is there yet, but to suggest his supporting cast was good enough is ridiculous and certainly blantantly unfair.
So 4th in the league in rushing is only a quality running game. What are the top 3 rushing attacks called?
Greene had 108 carries in the regular season. He had 54 carries in the 3 playoff games. What does this show me? In the playoffs you need to run the ball to succeed especially when your QB is average at best.
Only to someone like you would allowing the most sacks in team history, or 41 years, not be historic.
Sell me Cutler and Stafford over Wilson.
I would also like to point out that only half the teams on that top-ten list made the playoffs.
Five teams had a YPA at/over eight, and they all made the playoffs (Eagles, Seahawks, Broncos, Chargers, Packers). Nine team had a YPA at/over 7.5; two missed the playoffs (Chicago, Arizona). 7.0 is really the absolute floor for an acceptable YPA.
Seattle has a great scheme and a great system that plays off the strengths of each department. The offense keeps the D fresh with a grinding, ball control offense - capable of making the big play, and the defense helps the offense by giving them field position, points off TO's, and a security blanket. When you teach your young QB that it's OK to play for another down, and he plays that way and wins games, because your defense hangs tough, you're affirming positive traits and allowing him to fine tune in the correct order. When Wilson misses, it looks silly and flies out of bounds; when Tannehill misses, it's too often into the lap of a defender. It's true that Tannehill doesn't have a running game to lean on or a #1 D to fall back on, but Wilson is affirming good habits by the day while Tannehill is still trying to figure how to win in the NFL. In Wilson, you see a guy who knows what it takes for his team to win. He embraces the running game, and he's quick to give compliments to the D. Not all QB's can operate in that kind of system. It takes a willingness to see your stats (to the very casual fan) dwindle - in deferring a portion of your attempts to the running game. You won't find too many great QB's who are willing to do that. But it also takes a guy who can extend drives and make big plays on call. It's a much rarer combination of qualities than you're giving him credit for. Tannehill, meanwhile, is still trying to figure how to win more than he loses. I'm not saying that it's all his fault, but I think it's important for QB's in their developmental stages to affirm winning habits. When you look at the best QB's, most (not all) had early success. Most were successful in college.
Wilson's on the fast track, and Tannehill's on the "hopefully" track.
You have it completely backwards. It's not that not all QBs can play in that type of system, it's that not all teams have the pieces to play that style of passing offense. If Miami had played Seattle's approach, they would have been much worse. I can't imagine all of the games that would have been 24 carries for 36 yards instead of 8 carries for 12 yards. They would have scored half the points that they did. Combine that with a defense that gave up 100 more points than Seattle and you have a 4 win season.
Tannehill is taking the necessary and painful steps to play from the pocket when the other team knows you are going to pass. That is what is required to be an elite QB. Wilson hasn't even begun the process yet. When (inevitably) Seattle's running game falters and defense fades, Wilson will need to carry a bigger load and may not be ready. When he ages or gets banged up (see RGIII last season), he may not have the same success. Btw, for all of Wilson's efficiency and care with the football, he is 4 times more likely to throw an INT when trailing than when leading. Because of the defense holding the other team, getting turnovers, and scoring themselves (combined with rushing TDs and special teams scores), Wilson was much more likely to be leading than Tannehill.
As I stated earlier, until a trend to running QBs is established, I want my QB to play primarily from the pocket.
Like Big Ben and Tom Brady?
And if it's such a distinct advantage for a QB to have that running game, why are the top ten rushing teams, on average, slightly below the league average for YPA? Why is the great Tom Brady not able to do what Wilson did with a top 10 rushing attack? Brady had a better O-line than Wilson, and when Gronk was healthy, he had better receiving options.
Huh?....Brady threw for more yards, passed for more touchdowns than Wilson.
The difference in the teams success is Wilson had the leagues best defense...Brady's, like Tannehills was not even close to the defense of Seattle.
The Patriots were 26th in yards allowed....Seattle #1.
The difference in the teams success is Wilson had the leagues best defense...Brady's, like Tannehills was not even close to the defense of Seattle.
The Patriots were 26th in yards allowed....Seattle #1.
all you are going to do is make excuses so why should I bother? he clearly had weapons to throw to, he had decent RBs but you abandoned the run, your OL was mediocre. You make it sound like you had the worst talent in the league but yet this year you'll be great w/ most of the same talent!
You don't get it, you never will.
amazing how the SB champ QB was sacked at a higher rate.
Keep those excuses rolling.
You mean I have my own view on something and that's wrong b/c you disagree? Cool.
Are you really telling me that the running game and #1 defense had nothing to do with the SB champ QB?
You are allowed to disagree and have your own opinions obviously but when you keep posting rankings that are meaningless you don't get it.
The D and run game helped, the RB averaged almost the same as your leading RB. The difference is they didn't abandon the run. If Miami doesn't they easily make the playoffs.
So now in the trolls lala land he lives in.......Miami and New Englands defense is equivalent to Seattle?
Junc do you know how stupid your looking?
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And by the way...who said the Dolphins were going to be great this year?
The ways things are going, I see a repeat of last year on the O-line....and a reshuffling of the linebackers hoping to fix the run stopping problem.
We are looking at 5 new starters on the O-line....not exactly the same players there.
Its always possible lightning strikes but its really nothing but hope right now.
I would say 7 wins would be the right over/under right now.
Junc do you know how stupid your looking?
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And by the way...who said the Dolphins were going to be great this year?
The ways things are going, I see a repeat of last year on the O-line....and a reshuffling of the linebackers hoping to fix the run stopping problem.
We are looking at 5 new starters on the O-line....not exactly the same players there.
Its always possible lightning strikes but its really nothing but hope right now.
I would say 7 wins would be the right over/under right now.
where did I say Miami's D was equivalent to Seattle's? it's best to actually read my posts.
This is where you're wrong. My "rankings" are "meaningless" to you. Again you say I don't get it. What you mean to say is I don't agree with your view.
So you're telling me Lamar Miller could've posted similar stats to Marshawn Lynch's had they ran as much? As if there's a way to even say that with a straight face. Your playoffs comment is also something that cannot ever be proved which is typical of your views. Passed off as reality yet aren't things that can ever be determined as correct or not b/c it's all hyperbole.