Reason a coveted QB available at No. 11 would be great for Dolphins even if they don’t want him

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  1. Albert Romano

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    The mock draft I shared with you on Monday seems meaningless at first blush because it’s just an estimate of what might happen in a few months without the benefit of knowing what’s about to happen at the start of the NFL league year in March and during free agency.

    But it matters for one simple and significant reason:

    It suggests the Dolphins are picking high enough to matter in the quarterback conversation.

    And as this is bound to be the offseason of the quarterback around the NFL, that’s important.

    http://amp.miamiherald.com/sports/s...ticle199787609.html?__twitter_impression=true
     
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    Could trade with Arizona if Allen or Mayfield is there at #11 and Miami doesn't want to go that way.
     
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    Because the NFL is a QB league and until u have a great one you will not compete with top teams regularly. That’s reason enough. Draft a QB over and over until one hits!
     
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    We've been in mediocrity for years and it's not because of the quarterback
     
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    The issue with drafting a QB is you don't just draft one for the sake of drafting a QB. It's the one position that if you miss on it can set your franchise back for 3 years or so. You need to identify him as a long-term plus starter and then have him fall to you (or trade up). Just because someone slips in the draft you don't draft him unless you look at him as a great player. This is different then pretty much every other position when looking at the draft.
     
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    I really want Davenport. Grab Luke Falk in the 3rd or 4th if he lasts that long. He is a developmental guy I really like.
     
  7. dirwuf

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    Until you have an exceptional QB you never really know. They can cover up for a lot of deficiencies elsewhere (look under: PATRIOTS)
     
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    mando says the dolphins really like roquan smith...I guess we will see come pick 11
     
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    Also look under Miami dolphins ( Dan Marino )
    Also the patriots are one of the best coach teams in the NFL.
     
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    That's the ideal trading partner for us. Moving to 15 isn't bad as you'd obviously have to sweat out 3 picks. However the only road block would be each of the 3 teams picking in front of us could use extra picks more than us. If Arizona is willing to part with their 2nd (47th), I could see Chicago, San Fran or Oakland being in the mix for a trade down. Not the end of the world if that happens because at 11 you just need that one guy to slip out of the top 10 and another QB being drafted ahead of you only helps that cause.

    For us it will simply boil down to who's left. We would be more inclined to take the best offer we can finagle if all of our top tier guys are gone. If you have 4 or 5 guys similarly graded remaining at 11, it's worth acquiring pick 79 and possibly a 4th in 2019.

    Wouldn't hurt to have some extra ammo to be able to trade up from 42 to 35-37ish to snag a starter, similarly to what we did with Xavien Howard. Moved from 42 to 38. I expect it to be a TE or OLB this time.
     
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    LOL
     
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    Never the Qbs fault. Unless your name is Cutler.
     
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    That's funny because I think that about everyone of your post.
     
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    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...eminder-of-the-unpredictability-of-the-draft/

    Given the unknown...I like my chances with Tannehill...use one of your 4th's to draft a QB...use 1-3 on making the defense your identity....if there is a "potential" QB available when we draft at 11...try to trade down 3-5 spots and gain an extra 3rd?....if so find a QB with one of your 3rd's.....unless one of the top 3 TE's are available...Build the team....we have a QB that, when healthy, can win with the right team around him...

    With a strong/dominate defense and Tannehill leading our offense we will win 10+ games....and have a QB grooming for the future.....IMO
     
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    Never said that it couldn't be the QBs fault. Some of it is, but most of it isn't. posters like you want to pin it all on the QB which isn't the case.
    Stop reading box scores and watch the games, you could learn something. If you get a chance look at the oline, take a look at the wonderful LBs we have. Look at the overall product not just QB.
     
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    ie unless it's deserved
     
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    Posters like me?

    Your diatribe based in emotion, has no truth to it.
     
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    Except with Tannehill , it's never deserved by you people. He's the most blameless player to play for Miami since Marino.
     
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    Awe look who's wearing there emotion on their sleeve.
     
  20. DolfanDuBbZ~

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    Deflection. Cute.

    Just pointing out your premise wasn't based on anything but how you feel.
     
  21. dirwuf

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    Lets put it this way, an average team can win with a great quarterback, and a great team can win with an average quarterback...unfortunately we have had neither a great team or great quarterback.
     
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    LOL, I was right. Sure okay if it makes you feel better.
     
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    The problem with us making any trades is not NE or Philly.......anyone on the other phone is better at making deals than t-dumb

    Ozzy rules!!
     
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    You mean not entirely.......
     
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    We all ready set back w thill17.. he is avg qb
     
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    No he isnt
     
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    Talk about your textbook pot/kettle situation! Wow!
     
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    Yes if u draft guy in rd2 to 3 he will not be ready start also. It might take that guy 2 to 4 yr start. They are no promised draft pick is going work out.
     
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    So you say Thill is an average QB...then you say (I think) ...there is no promise a draft pick is going to work out...

    So...are you drafting a QB in round 1 with Thill as your starter?

    Are you wanting to trade Thill and draft another QB AND a back up QB?

    Are you paying big money for a replacement in FA and keeping Thill...surely even though he is just "average" he can be your number 2 guy?...

    I'm just saying I support Tannehill and want a rookie to groom...BUT I would draft a QB in the late 3rd or even 4th round...Tannehill can help us get in the play offs and beyond with the right team around him....but a rookie QB in the 1st probably isn't going to unseat him while a defensive play maker in the first can unseat one of our linebackers...or safeties....or add rotational relief at DE and pay dividends immediately.....IMO
     
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    The ridiculous suggestion that will just not go away.......
     
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    So says the poster that never actually discusses the play on the field. I have never read a post of yours where you actually attempt to explain what is happening on the field.
     
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    Not blameless...but hardly the college pedigree of some of the QB's he's being compared to and really....the team and coaching staff that he has dealt with since his arrival and the beating he has taken ....he has the skill set to win...give him consistency on the coaching staff....and I don't know...an Oline?...a running back threat?....a true Alpha receiver?...a better than half a$$ed TE?....at least give him one or two of these....

    Some of you talk as if the QB is SUPPOSED to be able to overcome the flaws of the entire team AND coaching staff and win regardless....unbelievable
     
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    Not be ready to start if you draft a QB in round 2 or 3?

    OK, just like Russell Wilson and Dak Prescott weren't ready.
     
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    Honestly, idgaf about college anything once you're in the NFL. What you did in college doesn't matter. Also, Tannehill isn't the only QB/player in the NFL who has had to face changing staffs, injuries, adversity, questionable roster talent, etc.

    The NFL is a results driven league. Period. Potential doesn't mean **** unless you do something with it.

    We can play this "what if" game all we want, but it won't change any results. If Tannehill doesn't have the best year of his career in 2018, Miami will be in the market for a QB in 2019.

    I like the guy, he's made some nice plays in his career, but when he was drafted, we ALL hoped he would be a better player and have a better career than he has currently had.

    More is against Tannehill than for him right now. And that's a fact.
     
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    And nor does yours unless you can explain having one of the best head coaches in NFL history in Shula, one of the best QBs in Marino, and no Super Bowls to show for it. Remember, not one other position matters....
     
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    True enough. But that's two (and I know you can find a couple of more) starter worthy QBs from beyond the 1st round, but how many didn't make the cut?
     
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    And how many first-rounders also didn't make the cut?
     
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    I really think that is the pick if he's there at #11. He's also the player I'd want assuming Derwin James is gone by then. James IMO would be perfect for what we need on defense.
     
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    First round QBs fare much better, it's not even close...
     
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