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RUMOR: Developing Story: Matt Moore on the Trade Block !!!!!!!!!!!!

No one wants a declining QB with a bad contract.

It doesn't matter who the number 2 is...If Tannehill goes down, the season is ruined.
 
Sounds more like baseless speculation designed to drive Web traffic to that site.

If it were true one o the beat writers would have confirmed it by now. I highly doubt it is true.

But we realize that Moore I here as much for his veteran guidance for the young Tannehill as he is for his football talents. He is a pricey backup. It may not be this year but sometime soon we will part ways with Moore. When we do I wish h8m all the luck in the world. Good guy, good player and good teammate.
 
I think Moore has more value with this team than any other. Let's say tannehill went down with an injury that put him out 2-3 weeks, I'd feel much better with Moore starting for that stretch as opposed to Quinn.
 
Fin Thirteen said:
I just don't understand the need to have a "vet QB" on your roster at all. If the guy doesn't have the potential to be your starter, he's a waste of space, IMO. Better off to tank and get a high draft pick than struggle along to a slightly worse level of mediocrity to the one we all enjoy so much.

We should be continuously drafting QBs till we find guys who are starter material. I mean, we've been burning high draft picks on linemen since Methuselah was a toddler and it hasn't exactly paid dividends. We should have drafted Bridgewater in the first this year (total bargain IMO) or someone else the staff evaluated as a fit for the system. If they fail, we should cut them and pick up someone else until we have two quality QBs who could start and be successful.

The notion that a vet like Moore, Orton, Fitzpatrick, Freeman etc etc is a useful member of the squad is crazy to me. The number of teams who can validly claim that they are set at QB to the extent that they don't need competition for the starting berth is very small. Look at the Texans with Schaub. They thought they had their guy and were content to roll with busted flushes like Delhomme and Garcia as backup. They threw a late rounder at TJ Yates. Why invest in the QB position when we have the great Matt Schaub? Well, now they know the answer.

Now they're stuck with the stellar QB corps of Keenum, Schaub and Yates, none of whom any sensible NFL team would be fully satisfied with starting.

Philbin loves Matt Moore because he's a positive happy guy who turns up to work and knows not to bite the hand that feeds. In reality he's a goofball who has the easy life. He should be whinging at Philbin to be the starter and busting his ass, but he knows the game and Philbin drinks that **** up. As soon as we get a decent QB evaluator in, suddenly Moore doesn't look like the indispensable team player he was. About time, IMO. Just a shame we didn't draft some proper competition for Tannehill.
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I agree, not drafting a QB at any point in the previous draft was a fail on so many levels.

That said my theory is we're trying to get Moore to restructure. The Quinn signing was a shot across the bow and this trade rumor would be a second warning.
 
Why so skeptical? I don't care who reported it. Seems like a foregone conclusion to me. Moore has been injured and not picking up the offense. Not a good fit for the scheme either. Then the team gives Quinn 2 million. That's not 3rd string money guys. I understand quinn isnt guarenteed a dime at this point. But read between the lines. Moore is on the outs
 
Everyone is trade-able. I would think we would showcase him with the best stuff he can do, make him look like a world beater and get what we can. Maybe they like Lobato as a project?
 
Just for a second, let's jump in the "what if" machine.

Am I the only person who thinks cutting Devlin and trading Moore at this stage in the preseason, after the draft and after FA, would seem like the absolute worst plan to be executed at the most important position?

We're gutting our QB backup roster with a month to go before the season and with a new offense being installed?

We didn't know about this going into the draft?

This was our best plan? We couldn't have taken a flier on a developmental QB in the draft? Our best attempt in the draft was Brock Jensen, an UDFA? And we wait until we decide he can't cut it AND still follow through with our plan?

If true, there HAS to be something else brewing.

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FINOMINAL said:
Everyone is trade-able. I would think we would showcase him with the best stuff he can do, make him look like a world beater and get what we can. Maybe they like Lobato as a project?
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At this point, that's the only thing that makes sense to me.

I didn't pay much attention to Lobato because I literally thought he was just a camp arm. Can someone shed a decent light on what they have seen of him in camp and/or game?
 
Matt Moore is our QB insurance plan. He is a good backup and has proven to be a top veteran with outstanding personal attributes who has helped Ryan Tannehill's development as an NFL QB. However, at $5M a year, he's not cheap insurance. Brady Quinn is less expensive and probably a bit less talented.
It is very interesting to note Brady Quinn's personal development over the years. He started off as the musclebound pretty boy with great Draft expectations from Notre Dame. He slid in the Draft and then his career as a starter in Cleveland never took off when Derek "Horseballs" Anderson had his one good season in the NFL and Brady was shipped off to Denver where he never got much of a chance behind the overhyped musclebound baby Jesus with a 47% pass completion percentage, Tim Tebow. Brady had lots of destinations as a backup over the years, but few as a starter. I heard him interviewed the other day and I was surprised how intelligently he handled every question. Over the years, he got involved in some great community work and he learned something along the way. His charity raises funds for disabled veterans and it sounds like he is passionate about a really great cause.
He may have looked like a petulent pretty boy facing the embarassment of sliding in front of the cameras on Draft Day 7 years ago, but he has turned out a really good speaker and will probably do well in his future TV career as a Fox commentator. Sometimes a player who has been around for a long time (he's still only 29 and looks younger) has something left, if he's given a chance. I was so impressed by Quinn in the interview the other day, I am confident that he will be a positive contributor in the QB locker room. He spoke candidly about being blown away by Tannehill's athleticism and talent. (He didn't have to say that). He knows his job as a backup and he wants to be a great team guy in Miami. Incidentally, he has lived in Miami for the past 5 years in the offseason. This is his home and he's very appreciative to be given a chance here. After 7 years in the NFL on 6 teams, you'd expect little from him. But the reality is that he didn't get too many chances after disappointing in Cleveland. I think that he landed in the wrong spot and carried the burden of high expectations and he's now matured to be a good person. I'm supportive of Hickey's decision to sign him.
I would keep both Moore and Quinn as QB insurance if we can afford it.
 
roy_miami said:
I agree, not drafting a QB at any point in the previous draft was a fail on so many levels.

That said my theory is we're trying to get Moore to restructure. The Quinn signing was a shot across the bow and this trade rumor would be a second warning.
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Why would they want Moore to restructure? We have a crap ton of cap space and Philbin loves the guy. Signing Brady Quinn to throw passes in the dirt ala Tim Tebow just get Moore to release some money that the team is not in need of at the moment? Pure fantasy.
 
nick1 said:
Why so skeptical? I don't care who reported it. Seems like a foregone conclusion to me. Moore has been injured and not picking up the offense. Not a good fit for the scheme either. Then the team gives Quinn 2 million. That's not 3rd string money guys. I understand quinn isnt guarenteed a dime at this point. But read between the lines. Moore is on the outs
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?? He has picked it up better than any QB in camp. Thrown a lot fewer picks than any of the others.
 
spiketex said:
Matt Moore is our QB insurance plan. He is a good backup and has proven to be a top veteran with outstanding personal attributes who has helped Ryan Tannehill's development as an NFL QB. However, at $5M a year, he's not cheap insurance.

I would keep both Moore and Quinn as QB insurance if we can afford it.
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Why have a backup when you can have a competitor? And is Moore really "top" or just a guy who will never be a starter? His outstanding personal attributes? I'd hazard a guess they are turning up for practice on time, not biting the hand that feeds and satisfying yourself with a multimillion dollar lifestyle in sunny Miami. That's the lot of the veteran backup and that's how you get paid for doing not much.

Has Moore really helped Tannehill? How? Teaching him the divisions? Moore wasn't great in the WCO (which was Tannehill's college system) and has never played in anything like the Lazor offense. So how is he such a great mentor? I'm frankly struggling. I think those are platitudes that get spewed out in media briefings which have very tenuous backing in reality.

Having Moore is a lot better than having some of the other vets out there. But my point is that you shouldn't have anyone who you are not convinced could be your future starter. You need to keep drafting guys until you have some proper competition for the spot. You may even want to rotate QBs based on opposition or game situation (though I admit such an idea is more or less sacrilegious). Spending millions a year on a guy who will only deny you a better draft pick and won't improve your win record is completely counterintuitive to me.
 
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