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Everytime I see someone make a post saying this doesn't help the tank or this doesn't make sense. I just laugh because clearly some have their own agenda on what the dolphins are gonna do when they clearly both gm and coach said we are not tanking we are trying to win. What else do u need to get this idea out of your head. Its not even a great idea. It guarantees nothing. Not really a fan of Ryan Fitzpatrick but we needed a decent qb that was better than Ryan.
 
I like Fitzpatrick. He's certainly not the answer, but he's a decent veteran. I thought we were definitely NOT interested in him, because he's a gunslinger who, like Matt Moore, might just get hot at the wrong time and screw up our tanking. Guess I was wrong! Unbelievable.

"Fitzmagic" controversy just got real.

I'm OK with Fitzpatrick. I like him when he's on....but when he's off he wears his own teams defense out.

I was never on the Tank bandwagon and the Ryan Fitzpatrick signing is Anti-Tank.

Fitz will win as many games as Tannehill and by no means am I saying we should have kept Tannehill but stating this should squash that Tank notion a bit.
 
I'm sorry, and I'm not saying I love RF, but the reaction on this board makes me think so many people are a bunch of pussies. You don't go into a season with some crap no experienced QB to "tank" a season. It may work in the NBA (Rarely) but the NFL is completely different. No player wants to throw a season away due to the short lifespan. Also, put crap out on the field, other players can get hurt due to incompetence. Is Ryan F. the answer to a SB? Of course not, but he may be the answer to be somewhat respectable week in and week out. I know the losers who want to "pray" for some freaking savior in 2020, but I'd rather see a team willing to fight every week regardless of the outcome. How many top 5 or top 10 picks have bombed? More than have succeeded. Play to lose and you will always be a loser.
 
Another reason I don't like this. This is pretty much a throw away season where you can see what you have with the young players. We have two young QB's and we could see if they could be worth keeping but now he's going to take all those games/spans away from them. What was the FO thinking here??
We're also going to lose a potential comp pick and last but not least, we might now lose a top 3 pick in 2020.
Are they looking for yet another 8-8 season?

Bah, Humbug!
 
Even if Miami somehow finishes with 5-6 wins, they've acquired a good amount of draft picks in 2020 to possibly trade up? It's just thinking about the worst case scenario with Fitzpatrick under center, meaning more wins then originally thought. I truly believe Miami is going to trade down from #13. The 2019 draft is deep and they could get more ammunition for 2020 in doing so? Fitzpatrick isn't going to change the plan, except adding win or two more.
 
Could this mean the FO is looking at the 2021 draft for a QB?
God no, this is basically a 1 year deal I would assume. My best guess is we use this draft to build the lines and get our QB in 2020. That is probably why we got the 4th in 2020 and not 2019.
 
So what gave you faith in this front office is they appeared to be going full on tank mode?

Seriously, what happens if Tua Tagovailoa decides to go back to college for another year rather than come out early? What if Jake Fromm decides to go back to college for another year? We saw Justin Herbert do the same. He decided to go back to college rather than come out in the 2019 draft class. Matt Barkley did the same. Sometimes players decide to go back to college for another year and if that happens we would have tanked for who exactly? Justin Herbert! As far as I'm concerned he is not a player to tank for.

Then there's always the possibility that these prospects don't turn out to be as good as the hype. Matt Barkley returned to college and went from a top pick contender to a mid round draft pick. Other prospects have returned to college and not improved their stock sufficiently to warrant tanking for. So while it is unlikely that Tua, Fromm or Herbert struggle and hurt their draft stock, it is at least possible that they might not be significantly better than this year's class. It all comes down to how they develop and how they project as pros.

Obviously you seem to think that tank for Tua will see this team land its superstar quarterback and answer to its Dan Marino problem, but this tanking business is risky because it doesn't bring a guarantee of success. We might get lucky and land our star like the Colts did with Andrew Luck, but equally we could end up having a high pick in a weak or lacklustre quarterback draft class. If it's a weak class what do we do, tank again? What if that's a weak class, do we tank again? Do we simply keeping tanking until we get a generational quarterback? Now that's perhaps going over the top, but this whole tank for this QB is on the basis they turn out to be as good as the hype, if they aren't that good then tanking another year is the only option unless you draft a lacklustre prospect.



Not strictly true. Fitzpatrick went 2-5 with the Buccaneers and 3-8 with the Jets. Ok he has a 10-6 season with the Jets and a few 6 win seasons with Houston and Buffalo, but that goes to show how hot and cold Fitzpatrick can be as a starter. I suspect he has been brought in as a bridge quarterback or mentor to the young quarterbacks we have on the roster (or for someone we draft). I guess he could play us out of top pick consideration, but that is no guarantee if our team is not good enough to win games and/or Fitzpatrick doesn't play like Fitzmagic.

Plus, let's not jump on the tank bandwagon in the hope that there is a generational quarterback in next year's draft class. Tua is good, so is Fromm and Herbert, but are they the next great quarterbacks or are they the next so-so quarterbacks (e.g Alex Smith)? I did see Tua compared to a higher end Alex Smith, which is fine but that's not a quarterback to tank for. Now if the draft class had Lawrence in it, someone that has been compared to Peyton Manning, fair enough. But I think tanking for the 2020 group of quarterbacks offers no guarantee that we'll find our next great quarterback. We could just as easily end up with the next Bortles or Smith.
Lets just say you're right and that we still get a top 3 pick. We're still loosing a comp pick plus a great chance to play two young QB's to see what we have with them. Instead we're going to give those snaps to a guy that the whole world knows will not be a part of our future so even if we lose out and get a top pick, this is still a bad move for the future of this team.
 
Even if Miami somehow finishes with 5-6 wins, they've acquired a good amount of draft picks in 2020 to possibly trade up? It's just thinking about the worst case scenario with Fitzpatrick under center, meaning more wins then originally thought. I truly believe Miami is going to trade down from #13. The 2019 draft is deep and they could get more ammunition for 2020 in doing so? Fitzpatrick isn't going to change the plan, except adding win or two more.
The problem is that any team in position to take tua or Herbert are going to take them. You can’t trade up for elite qbs.
 
I'm OK with Fitzpatrick. I like him when he's on....but when he's off he wears his own teams defense out.

I was never on the Tank bandwagon and the Ryan Fitzpatrick signing is Anti-Tank.

Fitz will win as many games as Tannehill and by no means am I saying we should have kept Tannehill but stating this should squash that Tank notion a bit.
Definitely an anti-tank move … and that's the part that has me bummed. Oh well, time to stockpile draft picks so we can trade 3 years of 1st rounders to move up and get a QB in 2020.
 
I refuse to sit here and be ok with intentionally or secretively losing games.. sacrificing the fan base...player development....the culture...injuries...jobs...for a top pick. Talk about having no integrity. Play to win and whatever the record is at the end we deal with that. Make deals to get who u want. Cant believe some here are on board with this way of thinking.
 
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