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Moving pockets- someone please explain this to me. I cant remember the last time I saw one despite the fact we have a QB that throws beautifully on the run and can run as well. I asked Sherman via twitter but he wasnt sure either.

I just left the rotoworld thread where Philbin wasnt involved with the offense. Do any of us really know anything about all of this crap? This is why I adore Dan Le Batard. Give him a chance. I know many cant stomach him. But he is right more often than not. He refused to fly to radio row even for ESPN because all of the rhetoric is BS. How many times can you hear someone spew crap on keys to the game when no one really has a freagin clue what is going to happen on Sunday. And the Super Bowl didnt just prove his point. It gave it the trophy.
 
Gravity said:
Actually if his improvement follows the same trajectory it did last season, he still won't be any better than average.
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I disagree. Tannehill went from 12 TDs and 13 INTs in 2012 to 24 TDs and 17 INTs in 2013, his completion percentage from 58.3 to 60.4, his QB rating from 76.1 to 81.7.

Same trajectory means 48 TDs. That would be a lot better than average.
 
PhishyPhishy said:
Some of you guys really need a hug.

Drew Brees

Year Team G Att CompPct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD TD% Int Int% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck SckY Rate
2004 San Diego Chargers 15 400 262 65.5 26.7 3,159 7.9 210.6 27 6.8 7 1.8 79T 40 9 18 131 104.8
2003 San Diego Chargers 11 356 205 57.6 32.4 2,108 5.9 191.6 11 3.1 15 4.2 68T 28 5 21 178 67.5
2002 San Diego Chargers 16 526 320 60.8 32.9 3,284 6.2 205.2 17 3.2 16 3.0 52T 40 4 24 180 76.9
2001 San Diego Chargers 1 27 15 55.6 27.0 221 8.2 221.0 1 3.7 0 0.0 40 4 1 2 12 94.8

San Diego really should have been more patient, the ascent was pretty obvious.

Eli Manning

2007 New York Giants 16 529 297 56.1 33.1 3,336 6.3 208.5 23 4.3 20 3.8 60T 36 6 27 217 73.9
2006 New York Giants 16 522 301 57.7 32.6 3,244 6.2 202.8 24 4.6 18 3.4 55T 33 8 25 186 77.0
2005 New York Giants 16 557 294 52.8 34.8 3,762 6.8 235.1 24 4.3 17 3.1 78T 49 8 28 184 75.9
2004 New York Giants 9 197 95 48.2 21.9 1,043 5.3 115.9 6 3.0 9 4.6 52 11 4 13 83 55.4

The Giants have done pretty well for themselves, good thing they didn't panic and abandon ship.

Troy Aikmen

1992 Dallas Cowboys 16 473 302 63.8 29.6 3,445 7.3 215.3 23 4.9 14 3.0 87T 38 8 23 112 89.5
1991 Dallas Cowboys 12 363 237 65.3 30.2 2,754 7.6 229.5 11 3.0 10 2.8 61 36 3 32 224 86.7
1990 Dallas Cowboys 15 399 226 56.6 26.6 2,579 6.5 171.9 11 2.8 18 4.5 61T 0 0 39 288 66.6
1989 Dallas Cowboys 11 293 155 52.9 26.6 1,749 6.0 159.0 9 3.1 18 6.1 75T 0 0 19 155 55.7

Things certainly worked out for the Cowboys in the end.

The point I am trying to make is that not every great QB can step on to the field day 1 and be a Hall of Famer. As much as I love Marino, he spoiled us and ruined us as a fan base when it comes to grading the QB position. He was a freak of nature.

We all knew when we drafted Tannehill that he was raw and it would take some time before we saw the true return on our investment.

Give him an o-line and a running back and watch the legend truly take shape in 2014. In Tannehill I trust.

PS for those of you all on Foles junk, I present the reason for his success:

Oline rankings 2013
1. Philadelphia Eagles: +44.6 (16)

Summary: It’s been overlooked among the success of Nick Foles, but this line really is getting the job done. Sure, they’d be better for Todd Herremans not being something of a liability in pass protection (while our second-ranked run blocking guard) but it’s a minor gripe with a great line.

O yea and the best back in the league this year.


"drops mic"
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:clap:
 
Gravity said:
Actually if his improvement follows the same trajectory it did last season, he still won't be any better than average.
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one of the dumbest things i've ever read on here...just ban and get it over with...
 
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If you take his current "trajectory" He's hitting 63 completion percentage, 86 passer rating and the mid 30's in TD's...I'll take that...

But if you add in better protection, another year with the WR core and potentially a better OC the trajectory increases. The guy has been performing with significant handicaps his first two seasons...a nothing WR core in year one and a swinging gate o-line in year two....and Sherman.
 
so I guess Andy Benoit is on the approved, great writer list?:lol: (for now, until he writes something negative then he will know nothing:lol:)
 
ConvenientTruth said:
If you take his current "trajectory" He's hitting 63 completion percentage, 86 passer rating and the mid 30's in TD's...I'll take that...

But if you add in better protection, another year with the WR core and potentially a better OC the trajectory increases. The guy has been performing with significant handicaps his first two seasons...a nothing WR core in year one and a swinging gate o-line in year two....and Sherman.
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had he had those things you are talking about we likely would have gotten those kind of numbers in year 2 even...mid 80's qbr was absolutely in reach if not for our issues...same for 30 tds and 63 percent passing and over 4k yardage
 
hooshoops said:
had he had those things you are talking about we likely would have gotten those kind of numbers in year 2 even...mid 80's qbr was absolutely in reach if not for our issues...same for 30 tds and 63 percent passing and over 4k yardage
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He's easily a 90 Rating guy with 4500 and 36 TD's...just give him more then two seconds and put him a position where when he steps into his throws he's not stepping into the backside of the guards who are getting pushed back into his lap...
 
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so when he posted a 42 rating against us and the OL played great what happened? first off, rating and #s only tell part of the story anyway but it's silly to say he would have posted a 90 rating, 4500 yds and 30-35 TDs if the OL was better when the OL was great week 17 and he had one of his worst games.
 
Physician heal thyself (or at least admit yours sucked from the start, was always the weakest link and even adjusting for OL and supporting cast performance, still ranked in the bottom-15% of all QBs each year). Until that ephiphany is finally conceded, there's no reason to accord any more credibility to their "assessments" than taking Stevie Wonder's skeet shooting advice to heart. :idk:

4 years of PFF's no-axes-to-grind (even trying to give several benefits of the doubt) to one of that team's weakest links and worst QBs in the league since JaMarcus. :idk:
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hmmm, I thought I was on ignore? seems the stalker is still stalking
 
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