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[MD]

u do realize that every single qb we have had before tannehill has had a ton of talent around them, so its only fair we give him the same chance with the same talent.

for example, the 1 year we made the playoffs in the past 10 years with pennington, his top wrs were ginn, bess, and cammarillo, and camm was lost for the season in week 12. now those were talented guys.

And the team was 1-2, including a blow out loss at Arizona where the offense didn't do ****, until what happened?

Pennington provide great leadership both under center and split out wide in a gimmick offense. Hilarious that people actually believe Pennington's talent under center was the difference in that offense.

 

[Ilovemyfins4eva]

3rd year qb vs what a 9 year vet??? makes sense apples to apples...tannys already passed for more tds than penny ever did all while taking care of the ball at a similar rate...no 1-15 schedule no wildcat to crutch on no tom brady shredded knee week 1

11-5, had nothing to do with brady being out, unless we played the pats 16 times that season.

we split with the pats, we have done that often. 11 wins in a season is a very good season, anyway u want to spin it. lets also not forget, pennington came to the fins, 2 weeks before the season started, had no camp with us.

tanny couldnt get us into the playoffs last year only needing 9 wins to do so. that was not asking a lot. of course though u excluded him from any blame for last years collapse.

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And the team was 1-2, including a blow out loss at Arizona where the offense didn't do ****, until what happened?

Pennington provide great leadership both under center and split out wide in a gimmick offense. Hilarious that people actually believe Pennington's talent under center was the difference in that offense.

again, the wildcat was deff a part of the offense, but stop making it seem like we ran it like 50 percent of the snaps in each game.

pennington was runner up mvp in the nfl for a reason.

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

11-5, had nothing to do with brady being out, unless we played the pats 16 times that season.

we split with the pats, we have done that often. 11 wins in a season is a very good season, anyway u want to spin it. lets also not forget, pennington came to the fins, 2 weeks before the season started, had no camp with us.

tanny couldnt get us into the playoffs last year only needing 9 wins to do so. that was not asking a lot. of course though u excluded him from any blame for last years collapse.

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again, the wildcat was deff a part of the offense, but stop making it seem like we ran it like 50 percent of the snaps in each game.

pennington was runner up mvp in the nfl for a reason.

So to you, the QB's won-loss record is all that matters? You think Drew Brees and M. Ryan are worse players than whoever is being brought out at QB this week for the Cardinals?

 

[hoops]

11-5, had nothing to do with brady being out, unless we played the pats 16 times that season.

we split with the pats, we have done that often. 11 wins in a season is a very good season, anyway u want to spin it. lets also not forget, pennington came to the fins, 2 weeks before the season started, had no camp with us.

tanny couldnt get us into the playoffs last year only needing 9 wins to do so. that was not asking a lot. of course though u excluded him from any blame for last years collapse.

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again, the wildcat was deff a part of the offense, but stop making it seem like we ran it like 50 percent of the snaps in each game.

pennington was runner up mvp in the nfl for a reason.

no we just ran it every time we got in the red zone cause the qb couldnt put the ball in the end zone and neither could the base run game...keep em coming you're not doing well

 

[MD]

11-5, had nothing to do with brady being out, unless we played the pats 16 times that season.

we split with the pats, we have done that often. 11 wins in a season is a very good season, anyway u want to spin it. lets also not forget, pennington came to the fins, 2 weeks before the season started, had no camp with us.

tanny couldnt get us into the playoffs last year only needing 9 wins to do so. that was not asking a lot. of course though u excluded him from any blame for last years collapse.

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again, the wildcat was deff a part of the offense, but stop making it seem like we ran it like 50 percent of the snaps in each game.

pennington was runner up mvp in the nfl for a reason.

You might want to go revisit yards per play in the wildcat vs base offense before going down this road.

 

[Ilovemyfins4eva]

So to you, the QB's won-loss record is all that matters? You think Drew Brees and M. Ryan are worse players than whoever is being brought out at QB this week for the Cardinals?

first of all, both the guys have not played well for the most part this season. r they the ''only'' reasons? no, but if ur using brees and ryan as examples for this year, they r not having good years.

also, those guys despite having down years, have shown in the past they are capable of playing at an elite level? what has tannehill done to get the benefit of the doubt? 3 seasons so far, 7-9, 8-8, and at best this year 9-7 with most likely no playoffs.

his play so far has been mediocre overall. is he god awful? no, but too many ppl also talk of him on here like he has proven so much already.

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no we just ran it every time we got in the red zone cause the qb couldnt put the ball in the end zone and neither could the base run game...keep em coming you're not doing well

we ran it in the redzone, bc we had a good run game. plenty of teams run the ball in the redzone, that does not mean that pennington ''couldnt'' throw it successfully.

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

r they the ''only'' reasons?

Thanks, just wanted you to admit that a team's win-loss record includes more factors than simply whether or not the quarterback is a quality player.

 

[hoops]

nah mediocre was chad pennington from the time he got here...til his wing fell off

he didnt make plays he managed the game limited turnovers and provided leadership...but he also had that wildcat which rescued the entire season and a 1-15 schedule to prop him up before getting exposed by the ravens in the postseason

and then his arm fell off 2 years in a row...it's like the guy deserves a statue out front of the stadium to hear some of you guys talk about that qb

 

[MD]

Chad had a nice season no doubt. Dolphins don't make the playoffs without him. But what happened when we got to the playoffs and actually played a good team? He was limited in what he could do. The Ravens sealed off the middle of the field. Ball game over!

Trying to present an argument that Chad Pennington was the reason for the 08 success is ridiculous. The wildcat averaged almost 8 yards each time it was run. That and an incredibly weak schedule were instrumental in that team making the playoffs.

 

[hoops]

Chad had a nice season no doubt. Dolphins don't make the playoffs without him. But what happened when we got to the playoffs and actually played a good team? He was limited in what he could do. The Ravens sealed off the middle of the field. Ball game over!

Trying to present an argument that Chad Pennington was the reason for the 08 success is ridiculous. The wildcat averaged almost 8 yards each time it was run. That and an incredibly weak schedule were instrumental in that team making the playoffs.

bingo

 

[Ilovemyfins4eva]

You might want to go revisit yards per play in the wildcat vs base offense before going down this road.

i dont have time for that now, but i do recall that season really well. pennington was very good. again, i am not denying the run game/wildcat didnt make a difference, of course it did, but pennington was a big reason as well.

he threw the ball 476 times exactly that year, its not like he threw 300 times and we ran the wildcat all the time.

if mccown, who if i remember correctly was going to be our qb going into that year before chad, had started for us, we dont go better than 4-12.

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

The Simple Rating System (SRS) has been used by football analysts for decades now. It's not perfect, but it's a decent evaluation tool that can be applied back consistently through the beginning of our franchise.

We played the 6th weakest schedule this team has ever faced in 2008, with a SRS SoS rating of -2.3. The only 2 teams we beat that had winning records were the Pats, in Matt Cassel's 3rd start, the infamous Wildcat game, and the Jets in week 17 in Chad Pennington's revenge game, when the Jets were already eliminated.

Again, you're talking to a Pennington fan. That 2008 team was essentially a mirage unit that barely beat cupcake teams in close games, week after week.

 

[hoops]

The Simple Rating System (SRS) has been used by football analysts for decades now. It's not perfect, but it's a decent evaluation tool that can be applied back consistently through the beginning of our franchise.

We played the 6th weakest schedule this team has ever faced in 2008, with a SRS SoS rating of -2.3. The only 2 teams we beat that had winning records were the Pats, in Matt Cassel's 3rd start, the infamous Wildcat game, and the Jets in week 17 in Chad Pennington's revenge game, when the Jets were already eliminated.

that's when we beat favre week 17 right and he was pretty much washed up/playing hurt going in as i recall...

 

[SSnowman]

Yeah the defense beat up on Favre that day. Pretty much put him into retirement for the 2nd or 3rd time or whatever it was.

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

Yeah the defense beat up on Favre that day. Pretty much put him into retirement for the 2nd or 3rd time or whatever it was.

Nah. Favre wanted to go to Minnesota and stick it to the Packers. He played out his one season in New York like a good sport, sent some dick pictures to a trainer, you know, the usche. Then he hopped on over to Minny.