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I dont think most of the posters here believe or think Tannehill is a franchise QB. But that he's the best QB on our roster now.
The OFFICIAL "Start Matt Moore next game" Thread
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I dont think most of the posters here believe or think Tannehill is a franchise QB. But that he's the best QB on our roster now.
Ilovemyfins4eva
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i understand his stat sheet looked good, but i was at that game, and i am sure u saw the game as well.
we looked awesome the opening drive, but after that, it was same old dolphins offense. to begin the 2nd half we also had a solid drive, but after that, it was all the same garbage.
we lost by 3 tds that game, our entire team was bad that game.
Ilovemyfins4eva
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without u ever saying the qb u r reffering to, i can tell its matt ryan, and this argument is so dumb.
if u really can not tell the difference between tannehill and matt ryan, i do not know what games u r watching.
also, the only reason i brought up tannehills record vs playoff teams, was because rent the space kept on saying how one thing that makes tannehill better than moore was he can beat playoff teams. as u see though, moore only faced 2 playoff teams in that season, while tannehill has faced 14 playoff teams and is sub 500.
also, i didnt even look at the record that tannehill has vs non playoff teams, i am sure that is really ugly.
never beats the bills, lost to the bucs who were 0-8 , the titans 37-3 in 2012, jets 2x,
roy_miami
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Yeah I seem to recall Henne having a lot of garbage stats that game and may be an example of how the stats can lie. That argument is a double edged word anyway because stats-wise Henne had 2 good games of his first 3 in a new offense.
Ilovemyfins4eva
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henne was at least able to get garbage yds, not that it means anything, hence the word garbage.
tannehill can not even inflate his states in blowouts when defenses give u those 5-10 free yds by playing prevent defense.
this qb has got to go, philbin would have been smart to make a change this week before its too late.
DolfanISS
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Impossible it takes months to get a new offense and Chad Henne sucks. Certainly if he could do OK anyone could.
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No what's actually stupid is the loss of objective credibility by turning a blind eye to and defending a QB going back to his senior year Title game against VT who
» disappears the 2nd halfs, is ranked 140th out of 140 playoff-playing QBs,
» consistently demonstrates that in the second half of crunch time, win or go home games not even a first half 20pt lead is safe, with corresponding stats
» has been shut out in 6 of the 10 NFL 2nd half postseason quarters, and having been outscored by a combined 6 points in 5 first halfs was outscored by over 80 combined in 5 second halfs.
while continuing to rail against a QB who's not looked good since the Buffalo mugging but with what he had to work, a case can be made that he actually over-achieved prior to that.
By not acknowledging: "wow, I didn't realize that Ryan's in-season record against playoff bound teams was only a tad better than winning 2 out of every 5 - but considering he beat (and just barely) 1 out of 5 playoff teams in the playoffs, it really does confirm his chokeability when the lights are brightest." you make my case that when the Melty fluffers choose to ignore or rationalize away that in-your-face reality while dissecting every debatable Tannehill play, they concede any high-ground when it comes to objectivity!
If his rationalizers and excusers would merely admit having the benefit of more than sufficient evidence, that when it comes to postseason second halfs, Melty seems to be missing something clutch between the ears and legs rather than reflexively defending him and that he'd have fared even worse if chosen here without Roddy, Julio, Tony and crew, maybe I can take your criticisms of other QBs more seriously and be less "Melty-OCD" pointing out how disingenuous Tannehill's most OCD, Melty fanboi critics actually are. . Both could happen, but I doubt it. :idk:
Ilovemyfins4eva
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the problem with tannehill also is, aside from the fact hes not good against the elite teams, he is awful vs the bottom of the league teams.
just think about how many god damn games we have lost to awful teams, and many of those games were really not even close.
if u can play 500 ball vs the good teams in the league throughout your career and beat up on the bottom teams, u will have a very solid career.
I think that demonstrates further that this team is pretty damn good minus the QB.
Because while we have been able to beat some good teams when Tannehill has a good game(good game for him which is an average game by NFL QB standards) we can beat almost anyone. Yet, we manage to lose to garbage teams with Tannehill at QB because when he is at his normal ability it completely kills the teams chances of winning.
Good QBs do not have outstanding records vs. playoff teams. You are supposed to lose games to playoff teams for the most part, especially on the road. 6-8 vs playoff teams would be fine if we beat the non-playoff teams 90% of the time. We would win 12 games per season that way. That is why we went 11-5 with Pennington. He provided solid but, not spectacular QB play and we beat all of the teams we were better than on our schedule.
Ilovemyfins4eva
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come on wv, its the coaches and the playcalling y we r failing for the most part, give tannehill another 5 years and then we can talk.
he only has 35 starts, all on the same team, not switching from team to team, while moore has had 21 starts on 2 different teams in different spurts, yet moore we know what he is, tannehill the jury is still out.
until these ppl can see that teams r succesful based on there qb, these arguments with them will get nowhere.
ever wonder y despite having tons of injuries to there o lines throughout there careers, medicore defenses, etc, y qbs like peyton, brady, rodgers, brees, luck, rivers r consistently good and we never need excuses for them, yet with tannehill, its always someone else.
a very good to great qb will cover up many deficiencies a team may have, obviously tannehill can not do so.
will he play well today vs the raiders? who the **** knows. do i think he is the answer if he goes out there and put up 30 pts in a blowout? hell no, ive seen this way too many times with him.
also, its funny how ppl blame the o line on here, yet didnt here a word about them in week 1, only when tannehill is garbage such as week 2 and 3 do u here about the o line.
maybe its the ****ing qb who is the problem, and not the o line.
most teams do not have stout o lines,but the ones with good qbs, get by anyways
hoops
Tua time!
Really dumb argument right here...endorsing padding garbage time stats...why don't you take a look at henne vs tannehills red zone td efficiency numbers head to head and bring up something that actually matters
Ilovemyfins4eva
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i was just pointing out to another poster when he brought up henne vs tannehill, truth is they both suck, its irrelevant.
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This is most frustrating thing about Tannehill, he flashes the ability to beat the top teams in the league but lays an egg against the bottom-feeders. He's been the picture of inconsistency and isn't looking like the answer.
Matt Moore has shown to be consistent in how he only looks good against inferior competition. He hasn't been part of a W against a winning team, let alone a playoff team, since he arrived in Miami.
Neither is looking like a good choice, but I'll take the kid that flashes over the vet that doesn't any day.
hoops
Tua time!
Yeah I'd skip over that one too if I was you
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In my opinion there's no reason to go to Moore. I like Moore and I'm not gonna bash him. The truth is he isn't the answer or long term solution but he is a solid backup. My opinion is you sink or swim with Tannehill this year.