Without hesitation, Burrow said the best athlete on LSU's team was Edwards-Helaire. That's high praise on a team of athletic freaks.
Him and Swift were perfect for that KC offense with how much they throw to RBs.
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Without hesitation, Burrow said the best athlete on LSU's team was Edwards-Helaire. That's high praise on a team of athletic freaks.
Him and Swift were perfect for that KC offense with how much they throw to RBs.
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If I could get a mod to unstick all those position threads at the top I’ll place 2021 threads next week.
Raekwon Davis is a weird case because I really liked him in the early stages of the draft process, for many of the reasons ckparrothead mentioned. He demands respect no matter where he lines up. I mentioned many times that I thought the Dolphins made a mistake in not using Jordan Phillips outside once in a while.
There is a Seahawks blogger who I have followed and respected for years. This draft season he really got on my nerves. I think that's partially why I got tired of Raekwon Davis. That Seahawks blogger knocks others for repetition. Any Dolphins fan who repeatedly said they wanted Tua was ridiculed on that blog for being part of the "Cult of Tua." The blogger went out of his way to post every bit of negative news regarding Tua's injury -- including doing an interview with Michael Lombardi a few weeks ago -- but the blogger would intentionally ignore or dismiss any of the positive reports on Tua. He would acknowledge that he was dismissing them, since the source "has been a Tua apologist throughout." Then the blogger emphasized that he wanted the Dolphins to draft Justin Herbert so he could laugh at all the members of the "Cult of Tua."
Meanwhile this is the same guy who could not mention Raekwon Davis without using a Calais Campbell comparison. I think I counted 11 consecutive times in which he used that reference after mentioning Davis. Naturally when that was pointed out, the comment was not approved. Funny how that works.
I got so sick of all the Raekwon Davis mentions on that site I think I demoted Davis in my memory bank. But now it is delightful that the Dolphins got him while the Seahawks continue to try to rebuild their defense with top picks from the Big 12. Lotsa luck with that.
One thing about Malcolm Perry. I've seen him projected to a Julian Edelman role. I don't think he's tough or wiry enough for that. I've seen the transition attempted many times in college, without a success I can think of. The Canes tried it briefly with quarterback Tate Martell last fall before giving up. Perry should be great near the goal line given some of the creativity this regime has shown. But throw the damn ball into the end zone and not those idiotic screens that require catch and run.
BTW, consider how fortunate the Dolphins were that they chose that stupid flanker screen to Kenyan Drake on the decisive 2 point conversion in the 1 point defeat. With one more victory Miami picks behind the Chargers.
There is a Seahawks blogger who I have followed and respected for years. This draft season he really got on my nerves. I think that's partially why I got tired of Raekwon Davis. That Seahawks blogger knocks others for repetition. Any Dolphins fan who repeatedly said they wanted Tua was ridiculed on that blog for being part of the "Cult of Tua." The blogger went out of his way to post every bit of negative news regarding Tua's injury -- including doing an interview with Michael Lombardi a few weeks ago -- but the blogger would intentionally ignore or dismiss any of the positive reports on Tua. He would acknowledge that he was dismissing them, since the source "has been a Tua apologist throughout." Then the blogger emphasized that he wanted the Dolphins to draft Justin Herbert so he could laugh at all the members of the "Cult of Tua."
Meanwhile this is the same guy who could not mention Raekwon Davis without using a Calais Campbell comparison. I think I counted 11 consecutive times in which he used that reference after mentioning Davis. Naturally when that was pointed out, the comment was not approved. Funny how that works.
I got so sick of all the Raekwon Davis mentions on that site I think I demoted Davis in my memory bank. But now it is delightful that the Dolphins got him while the Seahawks continue to try to rebuild their defense with top picks from the Big 12. Lotsa luck with that.
One thing about Malcolm Perry. I've seen him projected to a Julian Edelman role. I don't think he's tough or wiry enough for that. I've seen the transition attempted many times in college, without a success I can think of. The Canes tried it briefly with quarterback Tate Martell last fall before giving up. Perry should be great near the goal line given some of the creativity this regime has shown. But throw the damn ball into the end zone and not those idiotic screens that require catch and run.
BTW, consider how fortunate the Dolphins were that they chose that stupid flanker screen to Kenyan Drake on the decisive 2 point conversion in the 1 point defeat. With one more victory Miami picks behind the Chargers.
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He’s Chris Canty. Not Calais Campbell.
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Raekwon Davis over Josh Uche is going to look utterly ridiculous in the near future.
I didn't think Curtis Weaver looked good physically in 2017 or 2018 either. I bet that program all the time so I watch lots of Boise State games late at night. He's always been a soft strange frame who makes tons of plays.
Whether it translates upward or not, yeah that's uncertain. College sack specialists like that sometimes get thwarted a few feet away in the pros. However, the 3 cone time is a great hint that Weaver may have just enough. It's remarkable how that single test drill is what stands out when you look back at the edge rushers who succeeded as opposed to the ones who failed. The 7 flat types as a block fare much better than the 7.3 types, no matter the other test scores or the subjective aspect.
Once Weaver put up that 7 flat time I didn't think he would be available anywhere near that point in the draft.
Later rounds are harder for me to figure these days anyway, just like the college quarterback position. I remember when it was a 12 round draft I started to lose clarity about the 8th round. Now it's more like 5th round. For example with JR Reed once it reached the 6th and 7th rounds I assumed somebody had taken him when I wasn't paying attention. Then I was shocked when I saw that he went undrafted.
Whether it translates upward or not, yeah that's uncertain. College sack specialists like that sometimes get thwarted a few feet away in the pros. However, the 3 cone time is a great hint that Weaver may have just enough. It's remarkable how that single test drill is what stands out when you look back at the edge rushers who succeeded as opposed to the ones who failed. The 7 flat types as a block fare much better than the 7.3 types, no matter the other test scores or the subjective aspect.
Once Weaver put up that 7 flat time I didn't think he would be available anywhere near that point in the draft.
Later rounds are harder for me to figure these days anyway, just like the college quarterback position. I remember when it was a 12 round draft I started to lose clarity about the 8th round. Now it's more like 5th round. For example with JR Reed once it reached the 6th and 7th rounds I assumed somebody had taken him when I wasn't paying attention. Then I was shocked when I saw that he went undrafted.
PFF and Football Outsiders were high on Curtis Weaver. Here is the Football Outsiders summary from a week ago:
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Curtis Weaver, Boise State
SackSEER Projection: 17.9 sacks through fifth season
SackSEER Rating: 91.8%
Similar Historical Prospects: Robert Mathis, Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila
Curtis Weaver is SackSEER's pick for the most underrated edge rusher in this year's draft. Indeed, even taking into account -- as SackSEER does -- that K'Lavon Chaisson will likely be a first-round pick and that Weaver will likely only be a third-round pick, SackSEER still thinks the two have very similar chances of NFL success.
SackSEER likes Weaver's production. Weaver recorded an eye-popping 34.0 sacks in just three seasons with the Broncos. Weaver also intercepted two passes and knocked down six others, giving him an above-average passes defensed rate.
Weaver's weakness is his combine performance. Weaver did not run the 40-yard dash, but he did perform the jumps, recording a 32.5-inch vertical leap and a 9-foot-8 broad jump. Those are slightly below average "explosion" numbers for a drafted edge rusher. However, Weaver did make up for his mediocre explosion by recording a 7.00-second three-cone time, which is better than average.
Certainly, a player who puts up big numbers at a Division II FCS school should not be taken as seriously as a player who puts up the same numbers at Florida State, but the difference between a program like Boise State and a program like Clemson has not been significant historically. NFL decision-makers have generally not spent high picks on edge rushers from smaller programs unless they have outstanding workouts. This is often a mistake, because there are plenty of examples of highly productive players from small programs who excelled in the NFL despite average workouts, such as Robert Mathis and Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila.
Aside from Weaver, there are not many other intriguing edge rusher prospects in the third round or later. Accordingly, if Weaver is on the board in the third round, a smart team in need of a stronger pass rush should strongly consider him.
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No surprise here: Ohio State's Chase Young is the top edge rusher prospect in this year's draft class. Are there any pass-rushers teams can target if they're not lucky enough to be drafting at the top of the first round? And who is the prospect teams should avoid?
Curtis Weaver, Boise State
SackSEER Projection: 17.9 sacks through fifth season
SackSEER Rating: 91.8%
Similar Historical Prospects: Robert Mathis, Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila
Curtis Weaver is SackSEER's pick for the most underrated edge rusher in this year's draft. Indeed, even taking into account -- as SackSEER does -- that K'Lavon Chaisson will likely be a first-round pick and that Weaver will likely only be a third-round pick, SackSEER still thinks the two have very similar chances of NFL success.
SackSEER likes Weaver's production. Weaver recorded an eye-popping 34.0 sacks in just three seasons with the Broncos. Weaver also intercepted two passes and knocked down six others, giving him an above-average passes defensed rate.
Weaver's weakness is his combine performance. Weaver did not run the 40-yard dash, but he did perform the jumps, recording a 32.5-inch vertical leap and a 9-foot-8 broad jump. Those are slightly below average "explosion" numbers for a drafted edge rusher. However, Weaver did make up for his mediocre explosion by recording a 7.00-second three-cone time, which is better than average.
Certainly, a player who puts up big numbers at a Division II FCS school should not be taken as seriously as a player who puts up the same numbers at Florida State, but the difference between a program like Boise State and a program like Clemson has not been significant historically. NFL decision-makers have generally not spent high picks on edge rushers from smaller programs unless they have outstanding workouts. This is often a mistake, because there are plenty of examples of highly productive players from small programs who excelled in the NFL despite average workouts, such as Robert Mathis and Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila.
Aside from Weaver, there are not many other intriguing edge rusher prospects in the third round or later. Accordingly, if Weaver is on the board in the third round, a smart team in need of a stronger pass rush should strongly consider him.
Regarding Uche and Davis, the goal is not the same.
Alabama has not been pushed around in perhaps 15 years. It makes sense that their fans have forgotten the helpless feeling. Dolphin fans experience it multiple times per season.
Alabama has not been pushed around in perhaps 15 years. It makes sense that their fans have forgotten the helpless feeling. Dolphin fans experience it multiple times per season.
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Hurricane fans will enjoy a few of those threads.
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Looking forward to it. Especially DE and TE
Rousseau and Brevin?
Sadly I won't because the few guys on the team worth a damn will bolt faster than Deejay/Garvin/Bandy/Hill this year. Then we're left with less talent and a poor staff that can't develop players.
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Hill was a senior.
D.J. was drafted in the 4th round and would have had to split carries if he came back so it was a smart move.
Garvin had a down year but the guys coming up behind him are better so don't mind him leaving.
Bandy should have stayed and played inside at slot were he was better.
Agree the staff was not good and everyone on the offensive side were replaced so we will see.
We did find a good QB IMO
D.J. was drafted in the 4th round and would have had to split carries if he came back so it was a smart move.
Garvin had a down year but the guys coming up behind him are better so don't mind him leaving.
Bandy should have stayed and played inside at slot were he was better.
Agree the staff was not good and everyone on the offensive side were replaced so we will see.
We did find a good QB IMO
Yeah you're right - Hill was a senior. He sat out the bowl game and i kept thinking it was bc he declared early.
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Well, what that tells me is how much they really like Igbinoghene. That, and they weren’t so high on Swift (or Dobbins) once CEH was off the board because they seemingly didn’t make an effort to secure either.
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