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Thoughts On Lamar Jackson?

I’m intruiged by what Gase could do with such an electric player. I’d also like to see some of the heads explode around here from those who hate the idea and are incredibly rude to those who don’t share their opinion.
 
Geordie said:
His IQ is the big concern for me, I know you can't trust the wonderlic but back that up with the comments folks have made about him being a project on the white board then that has to be an issue. Wouldn't touch him at 11, but if we trade down, he because a more attractive choice. Would take a flyer on him in the 20's or so, especially if we had gotten a high 2nd for the trade down.
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At the very least his wonderlic score is quite similar to Dan Marino!
 
His head doesn't bother me as much as his feet. Bad footwork and inaccurate passes don't go well in the NFL
 
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Beach Bum 91 said:
And yet he still gets it done. As one who is probably slower than most mentally, I resent comments like this. Not everybody is blessed with amazing mental processing power. I know I struggle. However, I can over come most things through hard work and dedication. It just takes me longer to get there than others. In this case, I don't see why Jackson couldn't do it either.

I hope Jackson is there in round 2 and we take him. I would love it if he was able to prove people wrong.
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Doubt he last till round 2
 
deester11 said:
Not close to true. The same issues you mention are true for the "all-American" boys Rosen and Baker. You can't possibly think Rosen with all his so called ability is that far ahead of Lamar considering most scouts question his athleticism and accuracy AND durability. Lamar doesn't fit the "prototype" but I'm in the camp that thinks he can do what Watson did under the right tutelage. Not at 11 but in the 20's...absolutely.
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Are you seriously suggesting that Baker--the owner of the two highest rated collegiate QB ratings seasons ever--as inaccurate as Lamar Jackson? Are you seriously saying that Rosen is as inaccurate as Jackson? Wow. My suggestion might be to rewatch games from those 3 players. Your statements are not credible. Almost all scouts question Jackson's accuracy, and I'm not aware of a single scout that thinks Jackson is as accurate as either Baker or Rosen.

As for calling my post "not close to true" there is nothing in my post that is inaccurate or against the scout consensus on comparing Jackson to Mayfield and Rosen. I acknowledged over many posts that Jackson is athletic, and far more athletic than Mayfield and Rosen ... because that's his strength. My post was about the fact that he has weaknesses at pocket passing skills, like the most important, accuracy.

You may personally like Jackson, which is fair, but your opinion does not align with most scouts regarding his accuracy. Please do not call my posts untrue and then follow it up with these kinds of statements. It is disingenuous.
 
opticblazed said:
Wonderlic

Doesn't mean much.aka marino
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Different era, different, less complicated playbook - especially Gase's......and before the perceived need to tutor for better scores because it helps. Did anyone even advise Jackson to get tutored... and if not, isn't that another red flag? Marino? Who knows? Maybe the reason Dan fell to us was the same reason his test scores suffered. And did we have an inkling of his actual football IQ as reflected on the whiteboard? (Incidentally Mayfield was the only QB who was described as "knocking it out of the park.")

Out of all the college QBs that the league ever wanted to have tested, these are the handful who registered Jackson's score or lower. Through the perspective of 20/20 hindsight, how many among them would you have wanted under center?

Oscar Davenport 6, Vince Young 6, Terelle Pryor 6, Vince Evans 8, Chris Leak 8, Jeff George 10, Tee Martin 11, Eli Robertson 11, Marcus Smith 11, Tobi Karrode 12, Ted White 12, Neil O'Donnell 13, Brad Banks 13, Brock Berlin 13, Rasheed Marshall 13,

Again, too many red flags to take him at 11 or even anywhere in the first round when there will be some slam dunks available to us. If we can get finagle a 3rd pick later on in the 2nd round, or as a 3rd rounder although it's unlikely he'll be there at that point, I'm fine with the relative "cost" of betting on a rare anomaly.
 
I can assure you that the QB in this draft that will keep opposing defensive coordinators up at night is Lamar Jackson. Whether that means that the defensive coordinators will win that matchup more often than not, who knows, but he's a much better player than Vick was in college and Vick went #1 overall. If it was guaranteed that Jackson's floor is Michael Vick, wouldn't that change everybody's mind? Or is still because of some antiquated notion that a QB that can run can't possibly win a Super Bowl?
 
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Digital said:
Are you seriously suggesting that Baker--the owner of the two highest rated collegiate QB ratings seasons ever--as inaccurate as Lamar Jackson? Are you seriously saying that Rosen is as inaccurate as Jackson? Wow. My suggestion might be to rewatch games from those 3 players. Your statements are not credible. Almost all scouts question Jackson's accuracy, and I'm not aware of a single scout that thinks Jackson is as accurate as either Baker or Rosen.

As for calling my post "not close to true" there is nothing in my post that is inaccurate or against the scout consensus on comparing Jackson to Mayfield and Rosen. I acknowledged over many posts that Jackson is athletic, and far more athletic than Mayfield and Rosen ... because that's his strength. My post was about the fact that he has weaknesses at pocket passing skills, like the most important, accuracy.

You may personally like Jackson, which is fair, but your opinion does not align with most scouts regarding his accuracy. Please do not call my posts untrue and then follow it up with these kinds of statements. It is disingenuous.
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We can all agree that the so called experts are almost always wrong.
 
Birdmond said:
White was like 5’8” and 150 lbs. lazy comparisons
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Well....most say they are similar
Digital said:
Are you seriously suggesting that Baker--the owner of the two highest rated collegiate QB ratings seasons ever--as inaccurate as Lamar Jackson? Are you seriously saying that Rosen is as inaccurate as Jackson? Wow. My suggestion might be to rewatch games from those 3 players. Your statements are not credible. Almost all scouts question Jackson's accuracy, and I'm not aware of a single scout that thinks Jackson is as accurate as either Baker or Rosen.

As for calling my post "not close to true" there is nothing in my post that is inaccurate or against the scout consensus on comparing Jackson to Mayfield and Rosen. I acknowledged over many posts that Jackson is athletic, and far more athletic than Mayfield and Rosen ... because that's his strength. My post was about the fact that he has weaknesses at pocket passing skills, like the most important, accuracy.

You may personally like Jackson, which is fair, but your opinion does not align with most scouts regarding his accuracy. Please do not call my posts untrue and then follow it up with these kinds of statements. It is disingenuous.
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Perhaps you're biased as well because scouts are saying the same things about Rosen and Baker. It could be overexposure or whatever you deem it but it's being said. Your opinion is what you perceive and mine is too and I do think Jackson can be every bit the QB the others are perceived to be.
 
Jackson doesn't seem like a QB that Gase would be interested in. Gase wants a cerebral pocket passing QB, someone that Gase can control with X's and O'x and a systematic decision matrix built into the offense. Lamar Jackson is not this type of QB. Jackson has a lot of potential, but when drafting a QB, a coach has to have a plan on how they will integrate the new QB into the offense. I just don't see how Jackosn would fit into Gase's offense, even as a backup.
 
Zounds said:
Jackson doesn't seem like a QB that Gase would be interested in. Gase wants a cerebral pocket passing QB, someone that Gase can control with X's and O'x and a systematic decision matrix built into the offense. Lamar Jackson is not this type of QB. Jackson has a lot of potential, but when drafting a QB, a coach has to have a plan on how they will integrate the new QB into the offense. I just don't see how Jackosn would fit into Gase's offense, even as a backup.
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I think this is the correct sentiment.
 
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