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Top 10 Best Pickups [My Opinion]

Da 'Fins said:
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Rookie - just a suggestion before you start trash talking and posting junk like this - learn to read!!!!

The #5 ranking was not #5 OVERALL. It was #5 in terms of off-season moves! A team that is 4-12 (or 0-16, for that matter) could rank #1 in "off-season moves."

He's not saying that they are going to be the fifth best team next year! At the same time, he's correct in saying this has to be the most exciting off-season for fans in a long, long time. It doesn't mean the Dolphins will be much better than .500; it means that the future is very bright with a great coach and with building some solid depth at several positions.
Take it easy on the guy. After all, he's a jills fan. I've found in my experience that Jills fans are the most deluded, obnoxious, and sensitive fans , so it is best to just ignore them and hopefully they will disapear. If you take the time to debate and discuss matters with them, you will get nowhere fast. A word of advice: If you start arguing with a fool, people watching will not be able to tell the difference.
Great post Buddwalk. I agree with most of it. Lots of trenchant observsations. Perfect example was the note about Spikes. This guy is an overrated player. He's got a lot of bark but very little bite.
 
Buddwalk said:
Heres my random analysis of Top 10s.

Top 10 Free Agent Pickups

10. Kurt Warner QB - Some may look at this and go WHAT?!? But the truth of the matter is the guy if protected is a top 5 qb in this league. If you look at the weapons arizona has for this guy...you wonder if they keep him healthy and protect him who will stop him.
9. Plaxico Burress WR - At nearly 6''6 weighing 220 lbs. and running a high 4.4 40 hes a monster. But for me hes gonna have to prove he can stay healthy a whole season and deal with being the #1 where in pittsburgh it seemed at times he looked like a #3 or #4 on the field.
9. Muhsin Muhammad WR - Some feel this was a bad move cause the guys 32, but i feel hes got a 2-3 more years of productivity in him. He really had an amazing season last year that people still try to look over...Chicagos WR corp is probobly the worst and he'll upgrade it alot. Depending if Grossman stays healthy and if grossman is even a good qb he could have a great year once again.
7. Kevin Carter DL - Playing in Sabans Scheme you kinda wonder how he'll do especially since we havnt seen sabans scheme in the nfl yet. But playing on a line that features Jason Taylor your guarenteed at least 6 sacks and he was getting that with out him. Expect 8-10 sacks and a couple dozen tackles.
6. Pat Williams DT - The Vikings add probobly the best DT on the market and stick him next to a top 5 DT in the league and there Dline is already looking Deadly.
5. Fred Smoot CB - The Vikings added Antoine Winfield last year and now got him which looks like the 2nd best tandem next to baltimores. Smoot should be an immediate impact and this whole vikings defense should be much better, Top 10 Better!
4. Samari Rolle CB - They added a very solid corner in rolle and what he really adds to this team is basically what McCallister has added and thats everytime they step in a game they can basically take a wr out of the game. So now there secondarys looking amazing with the only question being the other safety spot.
3. Derrick Mason WR - They needed wr more than anything and they added a pro bowler in mason and in the the draft clayton. Though you wonder both guys are under 6 foot....but there so quick that the size wont really matter. Teamed with Heap they make a pretty leathal combo and the deciding factor is if Kyle Bollers ready to be an NFL QB.
2. Patrick Surtain CB - As much as many dolphins dont want to admit the chiefs did get a steal in him for only a 2nd round pick. This guy is a pro bowl top 5 cb and he'll prove it this year once again.
1. Randy Moss WR - New Division, New Team, New QB? How does this add success to him...simple What he will do is just based on stats which he'll still add about 90 catches for 1,400 yards and 14 TDs...but He'll allow Joey Porter and Ronald Currey to breakout this year.

Top 10 Draft Pickups

10. Heath Miller TE - After losing plax in offseason they didnt bother to get a guy that could fill his shoes through free agency so this pick actually made sense especially since there was a desperate need at TE. This pick gives Roethlisberger a big play weapon that he should be very comfortable with.
9. Aaron Rodgers QB - If your Green Bay your not really sure how much longer Brett Favre will play so...this pick was a no brainer in my opinion. Rodgers is gonna need at least a year to develop in my opinion, and where he was picked in the draft could prove to be a steal.
8. Mark Clayton WR - IMO the best wide reciever this draft had to offer. People doubted him cause his size 5'10 190 lbs. but the kids a playmaker all day long. He has the best hands for sure and will definitely help a very weak wr depth chart in baltimore.
7. Antrel Rolle CB - IMO next to running back this was there biggest need and I almost actually put JJ Arrington in the top 10 cause i really feel hes gonna blow up this year and might even have the most rushing yards for a rookie. Now back to Rolle, hes actually catching on very quick in arizona and i believe he can only help that team which is finally going in the right direction.
6. Carnell Williams RB - Gruden was ecstatic with the kid the first time he saw him at the combine and the senior bowl. Cadillac will make lots of plays but what im worried about is his recieving game which was never a factor at auburn. Hes a great rb...but as far as catching and blocking go...Hes 3rd or 4th best.
5. Alex Smith QB - San Francisco desperately needed a qb...and its not that this guy will immediately contribute but its down the road where you look at it. This guy is just a smart qb who doesnt make mistakes and should help this team win games.
4. Cedric Benson RB - They needed a power house running back...Think Ricky Williams but with out the weed and with out the greed. This guy isnt afraid to take it on you 40 times a game, infact he enjoys it. He should be a lock for a 1,000 yard season and in my opinion he might have been the safest pick in this draft next to Mark Clayton and Heath Miller.
3. Derrick Johnson LB - Think Ray Lewis....Nuff Said! This guy runs a 4.5 40 and 6''4 240 lbs. Hes a motor that never ever stops and the chiefs actually might of gotten the steal of the draft at #15 overall. I think he'll make more of an impact that Vilma did last year for the jets...expect 110 tackles 6 sacks 4 FF 2 INT.
2. Braylon Edwards WR - With barely any kind of help for the cleveland qbs this pick made almost as much sense as the dolphins taking ronnie brown. It was a definite need, Braylon will probobly be the #1 reciever here with in a couple of weeks. He should also put up good numbers against the week corners of pittsburgh and cincinatti this year, but i do expect him to struggle and maybe look close to invisible next to baltimores secondary.
1. Ronnie Brown RB - No running game exists and with this guy miami now has a running game for sure and he can also block and catch out of the backfield...forget all the ricky talk til ricky comes back ronnies got the floor

Top 10 Best Offseason Teams

10. New England - Didn't really do anything spectacular but belichick has made all the right moves before and in my opinion i dont think hes made anything that could hurt the team only help.
9. Kansas City - Kendrell Bell, Carlos Hall, Sammy Knight, Patrick Surtain, and Derrick Johnson will all be starters on this teams defense this year. The thing thats surprising is there all new additions and this team had a very bad defense last year probobly the worst imo so them added who they have there should be a top 15 defense now. I wasnt really excited about there move to take Dustin Colquitt but taking Surtain by trading a 2nd round pick to miami was a move that will probobly be there best pickup next to them taking Derrick Johnson in the first.
8. San Francisco - I actually really liked what this team did this offseason with the pickups of Jonas Jennings and Marquese Douglas. There Draft was very good imo and i really liked almost everything they did. But the best part is there first 3 picks are gonna probobly best starters right off the bat...Alex Smith, Davis Bass, and Frank Gore. For a team that drafted a qb they really have started to build the team around him with bass for protection and gore for a rb assurance.
7. Cleveland - They did get some good pickups in baxter and dilfer. Dilfer in my opinion is a gem cause hes won like 20 games straight now or some odd stat like that and he really doesnt make mistakes. I loved this teams draft taking braylon edwards, brodney poole, and even Charlie Frye who could be this teams future QB. Great Offseason for the city of Cleveland.
6. Oakland - I wasnt really a fan of there draft though I did like the pick they made to get Andrew Walter in the later rounds who could develop to be there starter in a few years. But they really make this list based on what they did through free agency, they added Randy Moss and Lamont Jordan who should turn this team into a Top 5 offense.
5. Miami - I'm a phin fan but im not being biased here if i was i would of put them #1 everywhere around the board. I loved the pickups of Kevin Carter, Stockar Mcdougle, Tebucky Jones, and David Boston. I also loved how we drafted with Ronnie Brown, Matt Roth, Channing Crowder, all be day 1 steals. They also took Travis Daniels who could see lots of time this year with Will Poole hurt. Overall for dolphins fans this has to be the best offseason in a long long time and all should be excited!
4. Dallas - They added 4 starters through free agency and probobly 3 more through the draft. Drew Bledsoe is old and may be a statue but if they can give him protection then he shall do much better than testaverde did. Ferguson and Henry should be starters on the defensive side along with Ware and Spears as they move to a 3-4 Defense. They also added guard Marco Riveria who will be a starter and improve a dreaded oline. Dallas could be a surprise team and with philly looking like there in shambles all of a sudden they could surprise and with the NFC EAST.
3. Baltimore - The additions of Derrick Mason and Samari Rolle give them two quality starters that should play really well. There draft was really solid as well and really what they've done they could make a run at a superbowl this year if Kyle Boller progresses enough.
2. Arizona - With the pickups of Warner, Okeafor, and Griffith i believe they've found 3 starters. I really liked what this team did in the draft as well. I believe they got a starter and a nickel corner in Antrel Rolle and Eric Green. They also got a starting running back in JJ Arrington who is very under rated and had one of the best college seasons ever. This team should be around 10-6 or 11-5 this year and i believe they will take advantage of a weak division.
1. Minnesota - The Best offseason with out a doubt! They got new starters in Napoleon Harris, Sam Cowart, Pat Williams, Darren Sharper and Fred Smoot. Thats 5 new defensive starters and i didnt even get to the draft yet. They also picked up brad johnson who will be a solid back up to culpepper. Now they did lose moss which created a huge hole and really cant be filled at all...but they did have a very solid draft that started off with Troy Williamson who is a burner that can make plays and should be starting opposite burleson this year. Erasmus James really might be the last piece to an already stacked defense. Marcus Johnson in the second round was a great pick that will help out on the oline with depth and could see some time since he can play 4/5 positions on the oline. But there running game might be in shambles cause of Onterrio Smith?...actually they picked up Ciatrick Fason in the 4th who will go along very nicely with moe williams and michael bennett. This should be a team that is feared and they have a good chance of winning the superbowl.

Top 10 Worst Offseason Teams

10. Pittsburgh - They lost Plax and Bell in the offseason and didnt really do too much to upgrade them. They had an above average draft with the picks i like the best being Heath Miller and Fred Gibson. They should still be a solid team this year just there offseason wasnt nothing you can be excited about.
9. St Louis - They added two linebackers through free agency in Dexter Coakley and Chris Claiborne. Both of those should be starters but I just wasnt really happy with how there draft went. They did take some good players in Barron, Incognito, and Bartell. But they still didnt adress the DL like they should of. It was a good offseason but again nothing to get excited about.
8. Philadelphia - They have 2 players that are very important to this team who still didnt sign there tenders Westbrook and Corey Simon. They now have rookies in there place, and I do believe they did come away with a top 10 draft but with Terrell Owens being TO and Donavan Mcnabb going on the madden cover this team could be heading for disaster.
7. Houston - There main objective this offseason was to upgrade there defense for Dom Capers. They overpaid for Morlon Greenwood in my opinion but it does add speed to there defense. I did however like the move to get Philip Buchanon and Travis Johnson. But my favorite pick they made was getting Jerome Mathis in the 4th who could actually be starting along side Andre Johnson this year. But the reason there on this list is cause they still didnt upgrade there OL...and thats why David Carr is struggling cause hes gets sacked so much.
6. Tampa Bay - In Free Agency they didnt really add anyone that is gonna start and through the draft the only pick i really liked them taking was Carnell Williams.
5. Washington - They did come through with a pretty good draft but trading a 2006 first round pick to the broncos for the 25th overall pick in the draft really doesnt make sense at all to me. The Redskins are gonna be the in the top 5 for worst teams this year and that gives the broncos a top 5 pick...it doesnt add up mr. gibbs.
4. Buffalo - They lost Drew Bledsoe which many will say wasnt really a loss but imo for this club it was. There still not sure at all if losman is the qb and if he struggles who are they gonna fall back on. There draft was pretty awful to considering probobly there best pick was roscoe parrish who in this draft theres probobly 10 recievers better than him. Also there second best pick in the draft was Kevin Everett and he will miss all of the 2005 season with an injury. And not to mention this club lost starting DT and the Anchor for the run defense Pat Williams. I believe with the loss of williams there gonna have trouble stopping the run this year and Takeo Spikes true colors will be revealed.
3. Denver - IMO they had the worst draft of any team in the nfl right now and there offseason was horrible. They have the cleveland browns defensive line right now which is a scary thing...not for opposing teams but for them selves. Also to think there highlight of the draft was them taking Maurice Clarett in the 3rd which was about 26 rounds to high. This team could be in a world of hurt, especially since Jake Plummer isnt really the answer for this teams qb problems. The only thing that can be good from all this was that there probobly gonna have 2 top 10 draft picks next year considering they will get one from the skins and one from them sucking.
2. Green Bay - They lost basically there whole OL which was the anchor to keeping Brett Favre healthy for so long and helping ahman green run the ball. I believe there gonna struggle now just by plugging a couple guys in. Also there highlight of the draft was Aaron Rodgers who will be sitting on the bench this year learning...the rest of there draft was below average. Not a good offseason for this team at all.
1. Tennessee - They Lost 7 starters...More than any team this year. The highlight of there draft was definitely taking Pac Man Jones...but Michael Roos was taken 2 rounds higher than i expected and i believe they reached alot for him. This team is going to struggle alot with all they've lost and this is basically why cause they lost 7 guys that were starters.
Really good, A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 
CChambers7284 said:
I think Jets r huge Losers of the offseason

Trade afirst for #2 TE
Lost Ferguson
Got L.coles who is way overpaid and an *******
D. Abraham retires making the jest the worst secondary in football and by far the worst CBs
Lost Mckenzie


I think Miami was a big offseason loser as well

Lost Knight and Freeman- I dont care wat u say Saban shouldnt of doen this
It would be a ok if we got a young guy w/ potential but we let Knight go who has the most INts since 1998. Worst of all we got Tebucky Jones, who is a piece of crap.
Tilman cant compare w/ Freeman
Greenwood finally showed soem potential last year and became a leader.
We haven resigned mcmiiekto a long term deal
asside from Macdougle, did nothing at O line
Satan is in love w/ defensive linemen for some reason considering we have
Taylor, D Bowens,t Bowens, Chester, Zgonina, Carter, Holliday, Roth, Romero, Traylor.

when we clearly need an olineman, saftey or a LB over more defensive linemen

First off let me laugh...:roflmao:

Next the jets actually had a good draft my friend they picked mike nugent who was without a question the best kicker to come out of college since sebastian janikowski. Also who cares if abraham is retiring they drafted justin miller who in my opinion should of been a first round pick.

Next off you say the dolphins were losers how so...They got rid of two unproductive slow safties in knight and freeman. We added youth with tillman but also a decent safety in Tebuckey Jones. Also we did add Abram Elam and Atari Bigby, in which case one of the two could start at safety for us. Also Tim and David Bowens will probobly be cut june 1st, saving us some cap room. You can never have too many defensive lineman my friend
 
CChambers7284 said:
I think Jets r huge Losers of the offseason

Trade afirst for #2 TE
Lost Ferguson
Got L.coles who is way overpaid and an *******
D. Abraham retires making the jest the worst secondary in football and by far the worst CBs
Lost Mckenzie


I think Miami was a big offseason loser as well

Lost Knight and Freeman- I dont care wat u say Saban shouldnt of doen this
It would be a ok if we got a young guy w/ potential but we let Knight go who has the most INts since 1998. Worst of all we got Tebucky Jones, who is a piece of crap.
Tilman cant compare w/ Freeman
Greenwood finally showed soem potential last year and became a leader.
We haven resigned mcmiiekto a long term deal
asside from Macdougle, did nothing at O line
Satan is in love w/ defensive linemen for some reason considering we have
Taylor, D Bowens,t Bowens, Chester, Zgonina, Carter, Holliday, Roth, Romero, Traylor.

when we clearly need an olineman, saftey or a LB over more defensive linemen
I respect your right to an opinion, but I don't accept it at all.
Knight was too expensive for what he was contributing. I'd much rather see a younger guy fill the position. Freeman was a small loss but he can be replaced. Don't judge Tebucky on what he did in NO. I think he will be OK in Saban's D. Greenwood was average, and there is no way he is worth $25 million. You say that Saban is in love with DT, and so he should be. It is a critical position, and I think we are still weak in the area. Carter, Holliday, and Traylor were all great pickups IMO, especially considering what was available. Bowens is likely done, Chester has major questions with his health, and Zgonina and Romero just don't cut it.
I'm not as concerned as you are with the O-line. Yes, it was truly the weak point of our team last year, but a lot of that had to do with terrible coaching. I think Houck will be fantastic for these guys. There is a lot of potential on the O-line, and I'm confident that Saban and Houck will be able to get the most out of these guys. It will take half a season, but last season's weak link will be a strenght for us by the end of year.
 
phinsforever said:
I respect your right to an opinion, but I don't accept it at all.
Knight was too expensive for what he was contributing. I'd much rather see a younger guy fill the position. Freeman was a small loss but he can be replaced. Don't judge Tebucky on what he did in NO. I think he will be OK in Saban's D. Greenwood was average, and there is no way he is worth $25 million. You say that Saban is in love with DT, and so he should be. It is a critical position, and I think we are still weak in the area. Carter, Holliday, and Traylor were all great pickups IMO, especially considering what was available. Bowens is likely done, Chester has major questions with his health, and Zgonina and Romero just don't cut it.
I'm not as concerned as you are with the O-line. Yes, it was truly the weak point of our team last year, but a lot of that had to do with terrible coaching. I think Houck will be fantastic for these guys. There is a lot of potential on the O-line, and I'm confident that Saban and Houck will be able to get the most out of these guys. It will take half a season, but last season's weak link will be a strenght for us by the end of year.

A wise man once said what you just said...

You must be a wise man...:D
 
Rookie - just a suggestion before you start trash talking and posting junk like this - learn to read!!!!

The #5 ranking was not #5 OVERALL. It was #5 in terms of off-season moves! A team that is 4-12 (or 0-16, for that matter) could rank #1 in "off-season moves."

He's not saying that they are going to be the fifth best team next year! At the same time, he's correct in saying this has to be the most exciting off-season for fans in a long, long time. It doesn't mean the Dolphins will be much better than .500; it means that the future is very bright with a great coach and with building some solid depth at several positions.

I know what he was saying you fool. Im saying, how can you say Miami has had the 5th best off-season of any team in the league? They havent done squat to address their QB situation. Drafted a running back that wasnt even the best back on his team and added a rookie head coach.

Plus, this is the site where I saw COUNTLESS Dolphins fans professing how they thought the Dolphins would have a better record than Buffalo this upcoming season. Which in itself is disgustingly ridiculous.

And for the guy who said Spikes was over-rated, explain how so? He made it to the pro-bowl last year, was 8th in the NFL with 5 INT's 2 returned for touchdowns. Had 96 tackles as an OLB, 3 sacks, 3 forced fumbles. Hes a playmaker. Whos better than him, Zach Thomas? Give me a break ..
 
Oc5er said:
I know what he was saying you fool. Im saying, how can you say Miami has had the 5th best off-season of any team in the league? They havent done squat to address their QB situation. Drafted a running back that wasnt even the best back on his team and added a rookie head coach.

Plus, this is the site where I saw COUNTLESS Dolphins fans professing how they thought the Dolphins would have a better record than Buffalo this upcoming season. Which in itself is disgustingly ridiculous.

And for the guy who said Spikes was over-rated, explain how so? He made it to the pro-bowl last year, was 8th in the NFL with 5 INT's 2 returned for touchdowns. Had 96 tackles as an OLB, 3 sacks, 3 forced fumbles. Hes a playmaker. Whos better than him, Zach Thomas? Give me a break ..


Yes, better to hinge your hopes on a running back with bad knees, a first year starter at QB who was a reach to draft in the first round, and a coach who is one year removed from being a rookie. :shakeno:

I know you jills fans like it when the phins have an off year, considering the way we have consistantly POUNDED you since the '60s, but don't hate. Your just being a blind homer if you can't consider the fact that the Phins have just as much chance at success as the Jills this season.
 
Yes, better to hinge your hopes on a running back with bad knees, a first year starter at QB who was a reach to draft in the first round, and a coach who is one year removed from being a rookie. :shakeno:

I know you jills fans like it when the phins have an off year, considering the way we have consistantly POUNDED you since the '60s, but don't hate. Your just being a blind homer if you can't consider the fact that the Phins have just as much chance at success as the Jills this season.
First of all, just because Willis has HAD knee injuries doesnt mean he has bad knees. In fact, most surgically repaired knees are MORE durable than a knee that hasnt been repaired after rehab and full recovery. Plus, Willis has shown great promise after what he did last year. What has Ronnie Brown shown? Secondly, Losman wasnt a reach to draft in the first round you idiot. If you recall Green Bay was going to take him in 1st. Besides, even if he doesnt live up to his hype, he'll still probably be better than any quarterback Miami has on its roster. And, Mularkey may be one year removed from being a rookie head coach. But he was a coach in the NFL for many years before being named head coach of the Bills. And he led Buffalo to a 9-7 record after starting the season 0-4. Pretty impressive ..

You say Miami has just as much of a chance at success as Buffalo does this year, yet you give absolutely no reasons how. Explain ..

And lastly, live in the now buddy. Since the 1990 season Buffalo and Miami are tied 16-16 in heads up matchups. And Buffalo beat Miami twice last season.
 
Trackstar#6 said:
Impressive! Nice post Budd. I agree that Ronnie Brown will contribute the most the quickest than the other guys in the first round.
depends on how many idiots hold out.... derrick johnson can make just as much of a contribution fast... i think the chiefs will have one of the best LB corps in the NFL... shawn barber, derrick johnson and kendrell bell? and if one goes down, the NFLEL defensive player of the year scanlon and the former NFLEL defensive player of the year, maslowsy (i know it's maslowski)... with james grigsby, too. that's a lot of depth, with fujita and keyaron fox (who coaches are saying is the most improved player from last year)...
with william bartee moving to safety, and harts/woods fighting for the free safety spot and sammy knight at strong safety... they have lots of depth at LB and safety. corner back with surtain and warfield doing most of the work (he's pretty good... Qb's don't like throwing to him... i know you guys will hate that). and the other CB's hopefully learned more this past offseason to cover 3 and 4 WR's. allen/hall/hicks at DE should be interesting to see if one of them can play opposite of allen. at defenseive tackle, it's ryan sims year to not suck. dalton is big and can disrupt the run and browning isn't totally horrid. hopefully this is the year siavii can make a contribution (a constructive one anyway)...

and all of the offseason pickups were made to happen because the chiefs didn't do anything last year in the FA. amazing, huh? the chargers are doing similar things this year (picking up one guy in FA, jue bhawog), so hopefully they don't get the same fate as the chargers, having their corps get taken out by injuries and then sucking.... the chiefs lost 2 linebackers, a WR and of course holmes getting hurt...

well, there it is...
 
miami added saban at coach right? what has he done to make miami better? he now has a much bigger d than before! his d is faster! his d is overall better! 3-4, 4-3 that is like the patriots are built!
the pats had tebucky and thrived with him at ss i might add, NO had him playing fs! he is a ss his height speed and bulk shows that!
wasnt tillman drafted by the bills a few years back in the 2nd round? he has up side!!!
kevin carter is 30 but in his whole career been injured and missed a game how many times? none!!!! Miami added crowder to a line backer crew that can teach him bunches along with roth a beast learning beind jason taylor the best d-lineman in the nfl! a crew of overachievers!!! crowder is the next ray lewis!!!!
miami has depth unlike last year even tho they should pick up another dt!! keith traylor i think was miami's best pick up!! he was on the d-line of the pats last season that won the superbowl by shutting down the eagles run!
miami already had a talented offense with chambers, mcmichael, and boston now they have the coaching to help! ronnie brown was the best player in the draft!!!!! he was the fastest out of carnell, himself, and cedric. he had the best blocking skills coming from a back in the draft in 5-10 years! he catches like tomlinson out of the back field! he is like a fullback and a receiver and a running back in one! he is the total package!he is perfect for the type of offense that scott linehan runs (shoot and run) i dont believe that willis mcgahee can block? and if he can why was he playing tailback not fullback in front of travis to make an unbelieveable back field? With the possibily of ricky coming back there will be so much talent on this dolphins offense teams will drule in fear!
you can bash me or what ever but miami had the best off-season out of every team by far! minnesota lost moss! oakland added moss! 2 losses! kc was the only team that ranks up there with miami this offseason along with the cowboys!
watch for miami, cowboys, and the patriots to be an awful lot alike with parcells the man who made belichick and belichick the man who created the evil genius saban!
the nfl is the best ive ever seen it now because not only is the players getting better but so is the coaching!!!!-peace!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Oaklandraider said:
I thought randy was at the top of FAs and there draft was kind of weak the best team in the offseason would have to be the cardinals.
yeah, your picture is gay. both of those guys are in different uniforms now (surtain/sandy moss)... we'll see who complains about their team first... and who really shines. until then ole sandy aint much of a problem for anyone.
 
Buddwalk said:
You say kurts not a top 5 qb but look at his numbers my friend infact let me get them for ya

When hes protected these are his stats

1999St. Louis Rams161649932565.143538.7275411329/2016016109.22000St. Louis Rams111134723567.734299.8885211820/115491498.32001St. Louis Rams161654637568.748308.8565362238/2338111101.4

thats 98 TDs to 53 interceptions with an average rating in the 100s and an averrage of 66% completion ratio. Not to mention he throws a bunch of yards...if you look at how this arizona team is built it reminds me so much of the 99 rams that its not even funny.

I think Kurt Warner #'s will look like this

26 TDs 9 Ints 4,200 yards 63 % completion ratio

I didnt say that surtain was a fa pickup i said offseason pickups...offseason consists of trading my friend.

I didnt make the draft picks out to be all first rounders its just in my opinion how they will impact on the teams

Whoa lets back up the bus. Warner was great when he was part of the Greatest show on Turf. Have you not noticed he has turf toe now? He is a shell of his former self. Those stats are from how many years ago? What has he done for his teams lately? Certainly not post up those numbers.

Cough!! Product of the system. The guy is just average now.
 
Excellent post. The only things I remember that jumped out as off base were too high an opinion of Fred Smoot and especially the Derrick Johnson as Ray Lewis line. Johnson will avoid more contact in one game than Lewis in his entire career.
 
Love the kids post

I love your post. I will not agree on Warner! Sometimes you have to offer more than just plain stats to make your point. Especially since some of the stats you use in defense of him are from 1999! Which is 6 LONG YEARS AGO!

6 Years ago Jerry Rice wasn't begging for work
6 Years ago the PATRIOTS hadn't won a Superbowl yet.
6 Years ago Eddie George was a top NFL Back.
6 Years ago I was 10lbs lighter.
6 Years ago Dan Marino was the QB of the FINS.
6 Years ago the Colts were in the AFC East.

Get the point? LOL

While I commend your abilitiy to put thoughts into words, I have to DISAGREE with the Warner Statement. When he was benched in St Louis, Mark Bulger came in and went to the Pro-Bowl.

He never regained his confidence. While he still has a good ARM, there were plenty of times on the Giants he had time to throw the Ball and made bad decision after bad decision.
 
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