Tua's closest statistacal comparison from 2021
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Not sure what your point is, but ok. I said Google “QB stats” not “QB winning percentage”.
What he means is that as time passes, great QBs accumulate wins...
The way I see it, it'll be almost impossible for a bad QB to accumulate wins long term, but at the same time having a losing record long term doesnt necessarily mean you're a bad QB.
Point is if Google "all time QB stats" which is really what you're driving at here the list is about the same. Of course I only did career yards here.
Of course great QBs accumulate wins. The “ great” ones have both stats and wins. What do you think is more likely? Wins without stats? Or stats without wins?
EDIT- I meant less likely!
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That does not change the point that team W/L is not a QB stat, it’s more a product of QB stats.
That's cause he was either injured or was getting pulled for Fitzmagic.
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Yeah, but what percentage of his passes were "on target." How bout THAT! I see how you avoid bringing up that Tua was like 99.9928% on target, twice in a row, against the Giants and Panthers.
W/L is certainly a QB stat.
But it can be skewed.
Like when you win 2 playoff games throwing for less than 100 yards (Tannehill).
Or wheb you win 7 straight off the back of a hot D while averaging 1 TD per game and 200 yards (Tua).
Of course it does. Wins are more a product of stats, at every position, then stats are a product of wins.
Like I asked, what’s less likely, winning consistently without stats, or producing consistently good stats without winning? It’s far less likey to win consistently without producing good stats.
That’s why it’s literally not a QB stat. Like I said, Google “QB stats” and tell me if anything about W/L comes up. It’s not my opinion.
Oh I understand what it entails. I just have an issue with anyone saying QB win/loss isn't a QB stat. It's absolutely laughable.
In fact if you go to Pro Football Reference and look up any QB past or present the categories go like this:
Pos. Num. G .GS. QBrec. QB record is the first statistical category outside of Games and Games Started.
Exception to every rule.
But typically how your QB plays, the single most important and impactful position on the field, tends to tell the story.
Pointing out an Exception and claiming it as the norm to strengthen your narrative is not consistent or an accurate depiction.
if you Google "NFL QB stats by career or by season" and go to Pro Football Reference, you will see nothing about W/L record. Additionally, if you go to NFL.com, the end all be all reference, and look at QB stats, there is nothing about W/L record.
It's fine if you want to track a QB's W/L record, many sites and people do, but it literally is not an official QB stat. Again, this is not my opinion. It's a fact.