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so you agree that signing now is the best move money-wise?
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If Miami didn't have a player blow out his knee leading to a Bills kickoff return for a TD or Hill didn't drop a 50-yard TD pass, would Tua still have stunk in that game?
With Tua playing the exact same way, one caught well thrown pass would've changed his stat line from 17-27, 173 yards, 1 TD 2 INTs and a loss into 18-27, 223 yards, 2 TD 1INT and a win.
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Not necessarily. The QB market could halt it's exponential rise and swing more in the favor of owners as another season plays out with TERRIBLE QB contracts. Tua could have a poor year or an injured year. It's not the HR you are making it out to be.
How do you come up with half?
Lay out the contract where that would be even close to accurate.
The QB market isn't reversing. That's just wishful thinking.
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We'll see. If some of these bad contracts handicap teams, we'll see how willing they are to continue to hand them out. Especially at the exponential rate they've increased.
Yes Tua would have still stunk in that game. The whole offense was bad.
That's a false, overblown premise. Relative to the percentage of salary cap, they haven't gone up as substantially as some purport, particularly when you look at contract structure, guarantees, etc.
Beyond that, what's the alternative if teams want a top 10 QB.
Are you thinking the owners are going to collude in an effort to devalue QBs? When they are making $ hand over fist?
I seriously doubt it.
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Well these bad contracts are going to NOT top 10 QBs. This is going to be the problem and why the market will correct long term.
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The 1st 3 years of Justin Herbert's extension added up to $65 million (cap number). I am assuming they can do something similar in Miami.
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Groceries could too but I'm not counting on it
But how do you know what you are terming obviously "bad contracts" is any more than just your opinion. Teams certainly aren't seeing it that way, Cleveland notwithstanding.
Isn't it apparent to you that the league, as a whole, disagrees with your position?
Is it a lot of money? Absolutely. Is it some huge increase in terms of cap percentage? Not really.
I'm not talking about cap #. Sure you can kick the can if you want, but that is almost assuredly going to end up in dead money sooner or later if a team is on the hook for 200m+ in guarantees.
If you don't care, I get it. Many don't, but don't act like there isn't ultimately a price to pay later.
I said when the terms of the Lawrence contract came out. If Tua wants that exact same deal, call a courier and get the papers signed before he changes his mind.
My sense is he's looking for substantially more.
I think that as long as the cap keeps increasing, along with revenue and salaries, there will be no market correction on QB’s. The owners know this too, which is why they floated idea of a “QB salary Cap”. The Daniel Jones deal set the standard for stupidity in the market and now there’s no turning back.
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