Tua's Next. Be prepared.

[Mach2]

The scheme will not win suberbowls.

You want to run the ball? Fix the oline.

You want a QB to reach his third read? Fix the Oline.

If you want to keep blaming the rest of the offense? Keep **** as it is.

Why build a scheme that only 1 QB can run?

Every year it is the same story. Grier never learns.

I didn't see a huge issue running the ball. Very few teams nowadays try to force the issue by running into heavy boxes.

It is imperitive that the line can consistently give the QB, irrespective of who, time to go through progressions while receivers not named Hill or Waddle "uncover".

 

[Sticky Gloves]

If that's the case and McD can't/won't adjust his approach, might as well just blow it up because it ain't gonna work.

I disagree with your premise, though, as I believe McD is smart enough, and innovative enough to adjust what doesn't work.

Let me ask you this. Do you believe the "scheme" as you purport it to be is a Championship winning one?

I do not agree it's a championship winning scheme and I agree McD is smart and innovative enough to adjust it.

However where I think we disagree is I believe he is limited not by his ability to innovate but by who he is innovating for.

 

[Mach2]

I do not agree it's a championship winning scheme and I agree McD is smart and innovative enough to adjust it.

However where I think we disagree is I believe he is limited not by his ability to innovate but by who he is innovating for.

So you believe Tua is too dumb to read a defense post snap and go through progressions?

 

[Avigatorx]

I didn't see a huge issue running the ball. Very few teams nowadays try to force the issue by running into heavy boxes.

It is imperitive that the line can consistently give the QB, irrespective of who, time to go through progressions while receivers not named Hill or Waddle "uncover".

It was a problem in 3rd and short situations. We didnt run because our oline was bullied at the LoS.

We could run when teams dropped into pass coverage, but when we needed to run between the tackles we couldnt.

It wasnt as bad early in the year, but as the injuries piled up it snowballed.

 

[Avigatorx]

So you believe Tua is too dumb to read a defense post snap and go through progressions?

They dont hate Tua...

But if you read the comments you would think Tua wore a propeller cap and blew snot bubbles out of his nose.

But they dont hate Tua.

****, if any of that **** was true *I* would hate Tua.

 

[Sticky Gloves]

So you believe Tua is too dumb to read a defense post snap and go through progressions?

Tua's not the sharpest tool in the shed, but no. I don't think Tua has the physical ability to take a deep drop, go through progressions and throw as he sees fit, and be elite at it.

 

[Mach2]

They dont hate Tua...

But if you read the comments you would think Tua wore a propeller cap and blew snot bubbles out of his nose.

But they dont hate Tua.

****, if any of that **** was true *I* would hate Tua.

I critique Tua and acknowledge shortcomings at times, but the level of mental gymnastics required for some of the things I read here are ........ Baffling? .......... Ludicrous? .........inane?


Not even sure what adjective to use.

 

[Avigatorx]

I critique Tua and acknowledge shortcomings at times, but the level of mental gymnastics required for some of the things I read here are ........ Baffling? .......... Ludicrous? .........inane?


Not even sure what adjective to use here.

With ya bro. I have my own criticism of Tua, things he needs to work on etc. Everyone can improve.

Unfortunately there is a cabal that believes he is what he is and he cant get better. And everything is wrong with him, his height, his weight, he cant win in he playoffs, he cant throw outside the numbers, he is a one read QB, he cant win big games, he is injury prone, he is dumb.

If they truly believe that is true, why the **** are we wasting time on him?

Cut him loose and move on. Blame someone else for our sucking.

 

[Induperator]

Yes. IMO, it's 2-3 years, but only with Tua as the realistic starter. I don't see how the Dolphins would even consider going with any other QB at least for the next 2-3 years with this team and this coach unless another established top-tier QB who fit Miami's current system became available.

Okay let's play...

Tua gets his 55-60 million per.

Hill retires at the end of his contract... Mostert goes away...

What then?

(Assuming that the draft picks do not all pan out.)

Like I asked before

How is the window anything more than this coming season.

 

[Fred Bear]

I think I'll just I'll just come back when the season begins.

 

[Fred Bear]

Okay let's play...

Tua gets his 55-60 million per.

Hill retires at the end of his contract... Mostert goes away...

What then?

(Assuming that the draft picks do not all pan out.)

Like I asked before

How is the window anything more than this coming season.

You got the good **** don't you?

 

[Induperator]

Calvin Ridley had 1374 yard season in 2020, Hopkins had 1407 in 2020 I believe it was you that pointed to a single outlining season in 2018 to show hill was playing at a high level prior to coming to Miami. I believe by your logic that still puts that duo at an elite level or does your ridiculous logic only make sense when you do it?

That was 4 years ago and those players have lost a step.... To date Hill has not. I never said that Hopkins was not a great player.... (Ditto for Ridley.) But neither has ever been quite as good as Hill....

There is nothing wrong with any of the players per se listed on those teams... Ridley, Hopkins, Allen, Lockhart, Metcalf, Smith, Cook..etc.

Who here would take the top 2 receivers from another team not names San Fran and the RB1 over Hill, Waddle, and Mostert.

You all want to poke fun of my posts.

So step up... go on the record and tell me what other trio was better than Hill, Waddle, and Mostert last season? Step up and tell me what trio you think is more talented and you would rather have on the Dolphins

Because for the most part when posters are trying to talk about Ridley or Hopkins You are not comparing apples to apples.

But I applaud the effort.

Let's see you guys rank the top trios

WR1, WR2, RB1


Whadda ya got guys?

If anything this should be a fun exercise.

 

[MARINO1384]

That was 4 years ago and those players have lost a step.... To date Hill has not. I never said that Hopkins was not a great player.... (Ditto for Ridley.) But neither has ever been quite as good as Hill....

There is nothing wrong with any of the players per se listed on those teams... Ridley, Hopkins, Allen, Lockhart, Metcalf, Smith, Cook..etc.

Who here would take the top 2 receivers from another team not names San Fran and the RB1 over Hill, Waddle, and Mostert.

You all want to poke fun of my posts.

So step up... go on the record and tell me what other trio was better than Hill, Waddle, and Mostert last season? Step up and tell me what trio you think is more talented and you would rather have on the Dolphins

Because for the most part when posters are trying to talk about Ridley or Hopkins You are not comparing apples to apples.

But I applaud the effort.

Let's see you guys rank the top trios

WR1, WR2, RB1


Whadda ya got guys?

If anything this should be a fun exercise.

Yeah so if anything my point is more relevant since you used one outliner from 6 years ago. I used one from 4 years ago and both have multiple good seasons.

It’s your logic dude.

 

[Aquapride2]

Even with all that, I still believe half the league would happily scoop up Tua for two firsts. Teams spend that much on an unproven rookie while Tua is a known factor, he has performed at the top of the league for 2 years now and he is young has been improving every year. Plenty of teams would take that over what they have

I believe the 'Tua top of the League' stats are misleading because of the pass oriented personel and strategy utilized by the Dolphins the past two seasons. For example some opponents were willing to give up yardage until the 20 yard line, at which point the defense may more easily protect against TD's, which resulted in lots of essentially meaningless passing and receiving stats for the Dolphins.
Unlike some fans and, or the media talking heads, the League's GM's know what's happening so I expect they don't give much weight to Tua's stats. My guess is that for the recent draft a team or two would have offered up their 3rd round pick for Tua. His propensity to suffer concussions and lack of mobility I believe are the reasons other teams, as well as the Dolphins, would be reluctant to sign him to a long term high dollar contract.

 

[Induperator]

Tua's not the sharpest tool in the shed, but no. I don't think Tua has the physical ability to take a deep drop, go through progressions and throw as he sees fit, and be elite at it.

You are dead wrong on this.

At Bama we saw Tua go through reads and consistently hit his third option

come on dude.

Yeah so if anything my point is more relevant since you used one outliner from 6 years ago. I used one from 4 years ago and both have multiple good seasons.

It’s your logic dude.

nope... The difference is that neither of the players you mentioned have ever quite matched Hill... Here or in KC... and the players you mentioned have lost a step and are no longer at the top of their games.

You are not even close to comparing apples to apples man

You keep jumping all over the place.

Let's see your list of top trios


Post it.