Agua said:WHAT IS THE PAYOUT ON THAT?
I'm not going to put up $1000 and the payout is only 1,300.
Can I borrow a $1000 from you, so I can play too? :D
Agua said:WHAT IS THE PAYOUT ON THAT?
I'm not going to put up $1000 and the payout is only 1,300.
nyjunc said:you can blame horrible coaching all you want but that horrible coaching made you better in '00 & '01 than you had been since '94.
nyjunc said:You can blame not having Ricky but Ricky has had only 1 big time season and his last season w/ Mia he averaged 3.5 YPC.
nyjunc said:I don't base my thinking solely on last year, it plays a part but not 100%. you still have no QB, you still have a shaky OL, you lost your best DB and your core is getting old. That's why I think you'll be better but not playoff better.
nyjunc said:If you start out 3-0 then it will be the miracle of all miracles, you will be lucky to win 1 of those first 3 let alone all 3.
nyjunc said:At some point it will sink in that you guys are not going to be nearly as good as you think. You'll be better but it may not be relected so much in the record and 5 1/2 is fair as you will probably win 6 or 7.
Based on last year that's not much of a stretch. Besides only we know how good Saban is, the rest of the league thinks he's the next Spurrier.A.J. Fin said:The over-under on the Fins this year for number of wins is 5 1/2. That is the 3rd lowest in the league.
That means if you bet the "over" and the Fins win 6 or more games ,you win! That seems absurdly low to me. Yes I know we sucked last year, but we have Ricky back, Ronnie Brown, Boston, a revamped secondary, a new QB, and a coach who doesn't like to lose. I'm not saying we will go to the superbowl, but 6 wins seems like a no-brainer. Either Vegas knows something I don't or they are merely using last year to makes their betting lines.
who is we? fin fans or the fins organization?Megatron said:Based on last year that's not much of a stretch. Besides only we know how good Saban is, the rest of the league thinks he's the next Spurrier.
nyjunc said:At some point it will sink in that you guys are not going to be nearly as good as you think. You'll be better but it may not be relected so much in the record and 5 1/2 is fair as you will probably win 6 or 7.
Don't give us that. There are plenty of games last year we SHOULD have won but didn't. The Seattle game comes to mind. If it wasn't for that bonehead pass we would have 5 wins.Losman7 said:You guys forget that you should have probably only had 3 wins last year...
9 times out of ten the Pats win that night game.... It was a good game though.
If he's better than I think that's a really GOOD thing.:)ch19079 said:i dont think the fins even know how good he is, or will be.
and, for the most part, the "rest of the NFL" thinks he will be a very good NFL head coach. but it may take him a year or 2 to get settled in.
i think i didnt say that right. (my bad)Megatron said:If he's better than I think that's a really GOOD thing.:)
ch19079 said:i think i didnt say that right. (my bad)
what i ment was:
neather the fins organization or the fin fans, know if saban is a good head coach or a bad head coach. noone really knows. i dont think we will really know untill after this season, or maybe even 3 years down the road.
the fins think hes great, but all teams think there new coach is a big improvement over there last coach.
so insted of agreeing with me, i think you will strongly disagree with me. :D
People knew that every 1st down we were lining up and running the ball.
In 2000, our coaching inherited a pretty dam good team already,
A.J. Fin said:The over-under on the Fins this year for number of wins is 5 1/2. That is the 3rd lowest in the league.
That means if you bet the "over" and the Fins win 6 or more games ,you win! That seems absurdly low to me. Yes I know we sucked last year, but we have Ricky back, Ronnie Brown, Boston, a revamped secondary, a new QB, and a coach who doesn't like to lose. I'm not saying we will go to the superbowl, but 6 wins seems like a no-brainer. Either Vegas knows something I don't or they are merely using last year to makes their betting lines.
DolfanNJ said:At leasst the have us up in the game on Monday Night.