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Wallace has been \is the problem.

DolfanDuBbZ~ said:
Apparently I addressed this already. Your 2nd grade reading level must have not understood my point. You name call and disparage my POV. But it is you who has already been taught some truth on Wallace. As was pointed out previously in this thread.

I have backed up my assertion that Wallace is who he is. He is a former pro bowl we, who scored and made big plays. The difference between now and then, qb play and the system
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Im just having a hard time understanding what your point is...Youre basically telling me wallace sucks and he needs the coaches and qb to make him look good. I just posted an article on how wallace catches everything chest level and basically needs a perfect throw to his bread basket to catch it...maybe you should take a few minutes and give it a read.

My point to you is Wallace was never a great receiver and never will be. He regressed before he got to Miami and i dont care about Todd Haleys new system. Point is, he regressed and has been regressing since 2011. You can make all the excuses for Wallace you want, but he will never be a great wide receiver...hes just barely a decent one.
 
DolfanDuBbZ~ said:
Yep a change in scheme and offensive philosophy has no bearing on the players involved, gotcha.
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Oh no it does...never said it didnt but you wanna keep blaming Tannehill for Wallaces crappy play but in reality his crappy play was right in line with his final year in pittsburgh where you are talking about scheme change.

So based on your logic or excuse of scheme change you are admitting that the problems were Wallaces fault, you know being that he was in a new scheme and all...
 
Posted this once before in an old thread, but still my favorite analogy of our $60 million sprinter. (though, it would certainly be more appropriate if the dinosaur was Haplocheirus or a Ceratonykus, as oppossed to a T-rex whom actually was at least a fierce carnivore.)

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Nawledge said:
Oh no it does...never said it didnt but you wanna keep blaming Tannehill for Wallaces crappy play but in reality his crappy play was right in line with his final year in pittsburgh where you are talking about scheme change.

So based on your logic or excuse of scheme change you are admitting that the problems were Wallaces fault, you know being that he was in a new scheme and all...
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and scheme changed again this year...to a much quicker pass...
 
Sirspud said:
I'm sick of people whining about out receiver no matter who it is. People whined incessantly about Brandon Marshall being a problem too.
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And everytime they go another team they have Hall of fame worthy careers. .I.E. Brandon Marshall.

Never mind the fact that he's now playing with just a third year Qb, and he played with a hall of famer in Pittsburgh.

Until, we have a Offensive Coordinator, Head Coach and quarter back combo, longer than just one year, all our moving parts will always be a cluster****..

Luckily for us that ends this year since we finally got the QUARTERBACK..
 
Nawledge said:
Oh no it does...never said it didnt but you wanna keep blaming Tannehill for Wallaces crappy play but in reality his crappy play was right in line with his final year in pittsburgh where you are talking about scheme change.

So based on your logic or excuse of scheme change you are admitting that the problems were Wallaces fault, you know being that he was in a new scheme and all...
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Wallace hasn't changed. He is a weapon in a certain type of offense and qb. Neither of which exist in Miami.

Also Pitt went from a 12-4 team to a 8-8 team under Haley's first year as OC. With that said, Pitt wanted him back...just at a certain price tag. Wallace balked and is now here. Give him a qb who can utilize his skill set, and he will produce.
 
Check that catch Landry made on RT's play fake. That is how you catch the ball. Watch Hartline, Mathews and Gibson. All catch with their hands.
Wallace could learn a lot from his other WR teammates.
 
Its not even that i dislike Wallace, i understand the need for speed and a deep threat but all the blaming of Tannehill is ridiculous when you really look at it in depth. Wallace is not blameless like some of you guys like to think. Wallace is just as much to blame if not more. He has been regressing for years, scheme change or not the regression is real. Wallace needs a perfectly thrown ball to his bread basket to catch it, statistics prove it. Its also very clear when watching him that he needs to cradle the ball. He doesnt do anything to help his QB out.
 
DolfanDuBbZ~ said:
Wallace hasn't changed. He is a weapon in a certain type of offense and qb. Neither of which exist in Miami.

Also Pitt went from a 12-4 team to a 8-8 team under Haley's first year as OC. With that said, Pitt wanted him back...just at a certain price tag. Wallace balked and is now here. Give him a qb who can utilize his skill set, and he will produce.
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What are you saying? We should find a huge scrambling, hard to take down QB to insert on "WallaceCat" gimmick plays? Isn't that being a little too obvious? Sorry, but saw what happened when Henne got into a rhythm and the ball was hiked to Ronnie; it's just not worth disrupting the 5th most prodigious 2year QB in the history of league or the chemistry he's established uplifting 4th rounders and above including Gibson, Hartline, Clay, Matthews, etc. I'd rather trade Wallace than devise gimmick plays with gimmick personnel just to watch balls slip through his hand or him not fight for jump balls, watching them turn into interceptions.
 
DolfanDuBbZ~ said:
Wallace hasn't changed. He is a weapon in a certain type of offense and qb. Neither of which exist in Miami.

Also Pitt went from a 12-4 team to a 8-8 team under Haley's first year as OC. With that said, Pitt wanted him back...just at a certain price tag. Wallace balked and is now here. Give him a qb who can utilize his skill set, and he will produce.
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Give tannehill a deep threat who can catch the ball with his hands and he will produce.
 
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Nawledge said:
Its not even that i dislike Wallace, i understand the need for speed and a deep threat but all the blaming of Tannehill is ridiculous when you really look at it in depth. Wallace is not blameless like some of you guys like to think. Wallace is just as much to blame if not more. He has been regressing for years, scheme change or not the regression is real. Wallace needs a perfectly thrown ball to his bread basket to catch it, statistics prove it. Its also very clear when watching him that he needs to cradle the ball. He doesnt do anything to help his QB out.
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Come on really?.

The first Deep pass of the season was almost intercepted, and it never got better from that point on.
 
CRAZYDOLFAN305 said:
[video=youtube;dNLTdNxhFvw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNLTdNxhFvw[/video]

Come on really?.

The first Deep pass of the season was almost intercepted, and it never got better from that point on.
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Never once did I claim that Tannehill was blameless...I'm just making the point that wallace is just as much at fault. There's people here who think it's ALL Tannehill fault which is completely untrue
 
I see a lot of catchable balls that wallace drops. RT deff missed some but wallace makes no extra effort. I say 4 of those should have been caught.
And I do know that weather plays a part. I cant say how much in those games.
 
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