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We Need a Deep Threat @ WR

Good Point

Fins 34 said:
We all know Linehan likes to go deep. Feeley and Ferotte have the arm to get the ball downfield. My question is, who is goign to be downfield to catch the deep ball. Chambers? Booker? I don't think so, not consistently anyway.

We need someone to come in and stretch the DEF. This would open up our presumed strength, backfield passes to Brown, Mc Mike, Booker underneath, and Chambers on the out patterns.

Any suggestions, FA's or possible cap casualties forthcoming out there?

We need a deep threat and it's NOT Chambers. If Chambers' had deep threat speed he would've never lasted into the second round. He's quick, and in my opinion a natural slot receiver, but not a flyer. He's to big and lanky. Booker is a natural possesion receiver.

We need a 4.3 or 4.4 guy to stretch the Defense. That's why I thought so highly of Mark Clayton who went to the Ravens, here's a guy that will drive opposing defenses crazy.

Having said that, speed is a really hard thing to find out there. Whether it's AZ HAKIM or DAVID BOSTON or some other JUNE 1st cut, we REALLY need to address this point. Because speed is something that you cannot cover man to man, and Chambers was blanketed by many corners man to man and became invisible in many, many games. It's asking too much of the man, who is in my opinion a great player.

In 3 wide sets put him in the slot, leave McMichael in as well as Ronnie Brown. As long as the Speed guy flies through on a go or a post the Safety WILL HAVE TO help, regardless of man or zone coverage. That will create space for draws and screens and quick passes to the TE up the middle as the LB's back up. It's really important. If not every one on the Defense just mans up and Feeley has to make perfect throws into traffic. That's not good planning. The idea is to OUT-SCHEME the defense by giving them too many options to cover all at once. Then, of course, we have to have a QB that can recognize in a split second what the Defense is taking away and deliver the ball on time to the guy that's gonna be left in single coverage.

Do we have that guy on our roster right now?

Your guess is as good as mine. But I do know this: Without a new reciever making safeties nervous out there Linehan's system is as doomed to failure as whatever QB wins the starting job. The QB needs the proper tools to be successful.

A speed WR is a must. And not just one, several for backups as well.
 
are you crazy chambers is a speed demon! and gilmore maybe even faster, do your home work!

DOL Wide Reciever HGT WGT Speed RATING
84 CHAMBERS Chris 6- 0.0 203 4.39 655.28
86 BOOKER Marty 5-11.0 217 4.56 586.4
82 GILMORE Bryan 5-11.0 194 4.38
 
romio said:
are you crazy chambers is a speed demon! and gilmore maybe even faster, do your home work!

DOL Wide Reciever HGT WGT Speed RATING
84 CHAMBERS Chris 6- 0.0 203 4.39 655.28
86 BOOKER Marty 5-11.0 217 4.56 586.4
82 GILMORE Bryan 5-11.0 194 4.38
Thankyou!!! no-one replied to my earlier thread. Gilmore is supposed to be a burner in open field. Thx for his stats.
 
romio said:
are you crazy chambers is a speed demon! and gilmore maybe even faster, do your home work!

DOL Wide Reciever HGT WGT Speed RATING
84 CHAMBERS Chris 6- 0.0 203 4.39 655.28
86 BOOKER Marty 5-11.0 217 4.56 586.4
82 GILMORE Bryan 5-11.0 194 4.38


i give u an A+ :wink:................ i think gilmore has sooo much potential
 
Jnaledu3 said:
I agree. But Sage can get the ball downfield better than Feeley can.

Just when I think that bandwagon has burned to the ground, someone keeps pushing it from behind, up the hill, in a snowstorm. Give it up. Sage Sux.
 
We have that guy in Chambers..The problem with Chambers production has been two-fold...first, there have not been any other WRs in the last few years to compliment him. And last year, with Booker as our #2, while he had a guy that had to be respected on the other side, the OL fell apart so bad that the QBs didn't have time to get him or anyone else the ball on a consistent basis. All that has to happen is to get 2 or 3 deep balls to either Chambers or McMike, early in the season and that would open the door for more...this year, we have McMike and now Brown (coming out of the backfield or rushing) that should take the pressure off the QBs to give them the opportunities for the long ball. This coupled with a scheme that is built for the long-ball, says to me that Chambers is due to have a big season...
 
that why I think Gus will beat A.J. for starting QB and then we will draft a QB in the high rounds in the next draft
 
nick19991 said:
that why I think Gus will beat A.J. for starting QB and then we will draft a QB in the high rounds in the next draft


i think brock berlin is th next brady:tongue::lol:
 
perezferia said:
We need a deep threat and it's NOT Chambers. If Chambers' had deep threat speed he would've never lasted into the second round. He's quick, and in my opinion a natural slot receiver, but not a flyer. He's to big and lanky. Booker is a natural possesion receiver.

We need a 4.3 or 4.4 guy to stretch the Defense. That's why I thought so highly of Mark Clayton who went to the Ravens, here's a guy that will drive opposing defenses crazy.

Having said that, speed is a really hard thing to find out there. Whether it's AZ HAKIM or DAVID BOSTON or some other JUNE 1st cut, we REALLY need to address this point. Because speed is something that you cannot cover man to man, and Chambers was blanketed by many corners man to man and became invisible in many, many games. It's asking too much of the man, who is in my opinion a great player.

In 3 wide sets put him in the slot, leave McMichael in as well as Ronnie Brown. As long as the Speed guy flies through on a go or a post the Safety WILL HAVE TO help, regardless of man or zone coverage. That will create space for draws and screens and quick passes to the TE up the middle as the LB's back up. It's really important. If not every one on the Defense just mans up and Feeley has to make perfect throws into traffic. That's not good planning. The idea is to OUT-SCHEME the defense by giving them too many options to cover all at once. Then, of course, we have to have a QB that can recognize in a split second what the Defense is taking away and deliver the ball on time to the guy that's gonna be left in single coverage.

Do we have that guy on our roster right now?

Your guess is as good as mine. But I do know this: Without a new reciever making safeties nervous out there Linehan's system is as doomed to failure as whatever QB wins the starting job. The QB needs the proper tools to be successful.

A speed WR is a must. And not just one, several for backups as well.
Right on the money brother.

Anyone remeber the kid Newsom or something like that? He got hurt in preseason last year. He may be a deep threat? Any know his 40 time?
 
We'll give you fast Freddie for Chambers. Even trade no? :D
 
FinsAreLife said:
i think brock berlin is th next brady:tongue::lol:

Feeley sucks, he doesn't even have the football player look
 
romio said:
are you crazy chambers is a speed demon! and gilmore maybe even faster, do your home work!

DOL Wide Reciever HGT WGT Speed RATING
84 CHAMBERS Chris 6- 0.0 203 4.39 655.28
86 BOOKER Marty 5-11.0 217 4.56 586.4
82 GILMORE Bryan 5-11.0 194 4.38
Are those Chambers' numbers from when he was a rookie or are they recent? Hee seems to have bulked up quite abit over the past few years. This could have slowed him down a full second or two.

The Gilmore notes are promising though. The kid could be the next big thing, and leave it Wanny to not see it.:roflmao:
 
Fins 34 said:
Are those Chambers' numbers from when he was a rookie or are they recent? Hee seems to have bulked up quite abit over the past few years. This could have slowed him down a full second or two.

The Gilmore notes are promising though. The kid could be the next big thing, and leave it Wanny to not see it.:roflmao:


u mean a tenth of a second??? cause a second would make it 5.39.....he deffinetly didnt drop that much:tongue:
 
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