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We need to extend Ireland before it's too late!

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roy_miami said:
Masterful moves like what? And my definition of masterful is something that sets him apart from his peers, for example, extending Jones (after he threatens to hold out) is not masterful, its average GM work at best.

Bona fide masterful GM moves from last year:

1: The Redskins trading the farm for RGIII and drafting Kirk Cousins
2: The Seahawks drafting Russell Wilson in the third
3: The Colts trading a voucher for a good CB with 2 years left on his contract at $1.5 million per year on average. I know Ireland fanboys try to play that off as a win but how many teams go 11-5 with a "cancer" in the locker room? Oh and we went on to have maybe the worst group of CBs in the teams history.

I'd also like to add that we were written off as hopeless before the season began last year as evidenced by Nublar (EVEN NUBLAR!!) predicting we'd have a losing season, that is an unforgivably bad GM job in my book. Just a smidgen of hope the week before any season starts should not be too much to ask for.
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only time will tell if trading the farm for RGIII is going to pay off. 2 i'll admit was a good draft move. Um and number 3? jury is still out on that one too bud.
 
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roy_miami said:
Masterful moves like what? And my definition of masterful is something that sets him apart from his peers, for example, extending Jones (after he threatens to hold out) is not masterful, its average GM work at best.

Bona fide masterful GM moves from last year:

1: The Redskins trading the farm for RGIII and drafting Kirk Cousins
2: The Seahawks drafting Russell Wilson in the third
3: The Colts trading a voucher for a good CB with 2 years left on his contract at $1.5 million per year on average. I know Ireland fanboys try to play that off as a win but how many teams go 11-5 with a "cancer" in the locker room? Oh and we went on to have maybe the worst group of CBs in the teams history.

I'd also like to add that we were written off as hopeless before the season began last year as evidenced by Nublar (EVEN NUBLAR!!) predicting we'd have a losing season, that is an unforgivably bad GM job in my book. Just a smidgen of hope the week before any season starts should not be too much to ask for.
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Since I didn't offer Jones, or any player for that matter, I will tweak your post to correct your correction of the definition of masterful:

1: The Redskins trading the farm for RGIII and drafting Kirk Cousins
2: The Seahawks drafting Russell Wilson in the third

Correction:

1: The Redskins trading the farm for RGIII and drafting RUSSELL WILSON (still on the board) in the 3rd instead of G Josh LeRibeus.


That is the definition of masterful, according to your examples.



My definition of Ireland "masterful" is a man previously thought to be stubborn and devoid of any vision in his player assessment completely changing his player evaluation. While not only shifting his philosolphy, but developing a plan to improve our team, get the players our coach needs and doing it without destroying our cap in a quick 2 year period. All while completely gutting our team and keeping us competitive. Not too mention pulling off a draft move NO ONE on the planet saw coming and acquiring the best defensive talent in the draft for a team deep with defensive talent.

Ireland didn't show his cards and robbed the bank. You may not feel he deserves your respect, but the metamorphosis we have witnessed in Jeff Ireland is remarkable. Who he is today and who he was 2 years ago takes a masterful effort. I commend him for changing after being taught by a man known for only doing things his way. I applaud Jeff's changes. He became the GM we needed.
 
phinfan40353 said:
Ireland didn't show his cards and robbed the bank. You may not feel he deserves your respect, but the metamorphosis we have witnessed in Jeff Ireland is remarkable. Who he is today and who he was 2 years ago takes a masterful effort.
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He was absolute hot garbage 2 years ago so I can agree he's improved, but it would have been almost impossible for him not to have.

As for the Jordan move only time will tell on that one, if the kid the Raiders traded back for turns out to be the best defensive player in the draft then they get the masterful checkmark on that one.
 
roy_miami said:
He was absolute hot garbage 2 years ago so I can agree he's improved, but it would have been almost impossible for him not to have.

As for the Jordan move only time will tell on that one, if the kid the Raiders traded back for turns out to be the best defensive player in the draft then they get the masterful checkmark on that one.
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he was never a bad gm. only inexperienced.however, he clearly improved
 
phinfan40353 said:
Ireland didn't show his cards and robbed the bank. You may not feel he deserves your respect, but the metamorphosis we have witnessed in Jeff Ireland is remarkable. Who he is today and who he was 2 years ago takes a masterful effort. I commend him for changing after being taught by a man known for only doing things his way. I applaud Jeff's changes. He became the GM we needed.
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Jeff's "change" consisted of approaching March the way Dan Snyder used to. I don't consider that masterful. Quite the opposite, as a matter of fact.
 
I thought this season was to supposed to determine if we keep Ireland at all?

IMO, Irelands off to a good start, but preseason is what it is: before the season actually starts.
 
This forum never ceases to amaze me.

When Ross was promoting socialism and reaching his hand out, this forum flocked to his banner. "Give him teh moneys! He might take us away the football!" Even those who supposedly love everything American were bending over backwards to try and convince South Floridians to raise their own taxes. Of course, during the election, when it came to their own taxes...well...

Now we have general manager who, by all accounts, didnt have to earn his job and spent 3 years having a salary handed to him and all people want to do is continue the handouts. Why? Because hes getting the players Philbin wants. You know, instead of Philbin getting the players Philbin wants. Philbin apparently does the work and Ireland redistributes the credit. And we continue to lose.

Principles and priorities. Fun stuff.
 
Good Lord I love this site. Absolutely love it. I'm convinced to be on this site you have to have a bare minimum of at least 2 personalities. 1 personality must be patient and say after a preseason loss: "It's just preseason guys chill" The second personality needs to be jumpy and over excitable and say: "ZOMG! Extend Ireland and everyone on the team to a 9,999 year extension!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" I have a lot of good geniune laughs on here and if I wasn't on mobile I would give each and every last hippocrite in this thread a big fat thank you for the laughs.

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IMO: Contingency likelihood of Ross extending Ireland (Ross's default being looking for way to justify retaining him) :

2013 wins/ percentage likelihood
6 or less: 15%
7-8: 35%
9 or more/no playoffs: 60%
9 or more/playoff loss: 75%
9 or more/at least 1 playoff win: 100%
 
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