Agreed on Parker although not liking it. Don't be too sure about Williams if we use high picks on two wr.Preston Williams isn’t going anywhere, nor will Parker!
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Agreed on Parker although not liking it. Don't be too sure about Williams if we use high picks on two wr.Preston Williams isn’t going anywhere, nor will Parker!
Who knows. Grier was able to wrangle a draft pick for a 3 week rental on Isaiah Ford.Agreed on Parker although not liking it. Don't be too sure about Williams if we use high picks on wr.
Parker, above average in 50 50 jump ball. Cannot stretch the field. Cannot run fly route. Cannot run dig route. Cannot run red zone fade route. Seldom catch in the middle. Cannot run screen. Cannot separate. Cannot command double team. On top of it, cannot play a full season.
If this is your nfl starting receiver, then your bar is extremely low.
I don't but i know what i have in Parker, which is not much.Do you know for a fact that the WR you choose will be better than Parker?
If you don't know I suggest leaving the draft sims alone....
Exactly.The receiving room needs help badly but let's not go crazy here. Parker and Williams were doing really well as a tandem before injuries happened. We must draft 2 new receivers, one very high and one a little later. Bring everybody to camp and see who wins the starting jobs.
No,Exactly.
we just need a little infusion of talent and it’s looking up.
Didn’t Parker miss like 1-2 games this year? Maybe go out of 1? That’s THAT bad for you? I get that he has been injured a lot in most of his career, but of the past two years he has been relatively healthy.No,
If Parker was healthy most of his career, and last season was an abnormally, then I say you are right.
But past six saesons proved you are wrong.
So, which team does Parker not start for?Parker, above average in 50 50 jump ball. Cannot stretch the field. Cannot run fly route. Cannot run dig route. Cannot run red zone fade route. Seldom catch in the middle. Cannot run screen. Cannot separate. Cannot command double team. On top of it, cannot play a full season.
If this is your nfl starting receiver, then your bar is extremely low.
All cogent arguments, and very reasonable.I would be much more inclined to keep Wilson than Grant.
He's a far superior reciever, and he is definitely in Grant's class as far as speed/elusiveness, should he be needed to return punts.
We know for certain he has better hands.
I wouldn't be surprised if neither were on the opening day roster. I just think, of the two, Wilson brings more to the table.
In the end, it's going to come down to a numbers game.
Assume 6 roster slots for the WR position. Parker, Williams, 2 additions, Bowden.
That leaves 1 spot. Who knows, if we bring in a FA, and draft 2, that leaves no spot.
I'm sure we will try to work out a trade or two, but the market isn't great for any of our guys, IMO.
You wanna stick our 2nd year QB with 3 rookie WRs? Yeesh.Easy decision, Parker, Williams, Grand, Wilson ( use top three picks on wr ), Godchaux, Breider....just first few that came to my head.
What others would you cut in order for us in FA market?
It was a strong condemnation, I admit. But I stand by what I said. Beside winng 50 50 ball, I did not see any other attributes in his game.Didn’t Parker miss like 1-2 games this year? Maybe go out of 1? That’s THAT bad for you? I get that he has been injured a lot in most of his career, but of the past two years he has been relatively healthy.
I think the argument you should be using- is asking if 2019 was an anomaly
also- your heavy use of the word “cannot” in the one post is a bit much. Major overreaction
Grant is just a great returner. Is almost as he has great speed but when he takes a turn he goes from a rocket to a tractor.I hold my breath every time Grant fielded the ball.
He is not a slot, lets get that out of the way. So its 2, not 3. All teams in top 16 in passing ranking, he would not start.So, which team does Parker not start for?
starting wr= in the top 3 receivers on the top also to consider that
Let's not conflate Tua's production with Ryan Fitzpatrick's production. Compare this year's Ryan Fitzpatrick to last year's Ryan Fitzpatrick for a more apples to apples comparison. True, we had other issues like no Preston Williams this year but a better OL ... but it's a closer production. Tua had a couple of decent games, such as Arizona and Kansas City, but was more up and down and some of those down games were simply protecting defensive wins. But yes, we saw upticks. Parker was productive without a true deep threat outside of Grant on the opposite side. Gesicki picked up the slot role Preston Williams was manning without any problems ... in fact it led to our primary intermediate to deep threat and a strong red zone option. You can attribute this to whatever you want, but the team really did not miss Wilson or Hurns. With Lyn Bowden Jr., we may already have our direct Wilson replacement without nearly the salary concern.
Did you just say that we moved on productively without them?
Productively?
If you think they quit on the team as opposed to not wanting to take the Covid to their families...say that.
Neither Wilson, nor Hurns makes as much money as many think.I disagree. Parker is debatable, but he has proven to be a legit #1, and Tua needs a #1. My preference would be to draft a new #1 and keep Parker until that drafted guy takes over the #1 spot convincingly. Preston Williams is a talented young guy, and he's not really expensive, so I doubt we move on f rom him. Grant is debatable, and he has definitely proven to be one of the most dangerous special teams guys, so his salary spot revolves around two things--1) can you replace his special teams scores/production, and 2) how much will it cost in terms of salary and draft resources to replace him? I lean towards keeping him, but that's a tough conversation either way.
IMHO, Wilson is gone. Allen Hurns, who absolutely should be in this discussion, is also gone. They chose to sit out the year, and we've moved on productively without them. At their salary levels, they clearly are not worth the money, so it's just a matter of time before we cut them lose. Might as well stop the bleeding now. How much salary cap does this provide? Not sure, but the result seems inevitable, so it's a hard case to make if you want to keep either of them. Sitting out a season on top of lots of injuries and very bloated salaries ... yeah, gotta get those guys off the books.
Definitely look at drafting a #1 in the first two rounds. Figure out the rest of the WR room as we learn how good of a pick the guy we drafted actually was at the NFL level. Lots of top prospect WR's are busts ... lots.