why not build around matt moore...

[DeathStar]

Actually, with the schedule we have next season, Moore should be able to get us into the playoffs. And if he is our starter and we miss the playoffs, we have much larger problems on this team than just QB.

You do realize our division has the same schedule?

And we have to play our division...

Matt Moore and playoffs LOL...So the end game for Matt Moore fans is just playoffs and getting bounced?

 

[LANGER72]

Alex Smith was picked first overall.

Thread won.

Until Harbaugh's arrival he looked like he was going to be a bust considering his draft position. He could not carry the team by himself. The arrival of the coach changed everything.

What did you win?

 

[67Stang]

and he's still better than Henne, so we have a real problem on our hands.

That is up for debate and it is basically a coin flip. People sight Moore's TD-Int ratio and don't throw in the fumbles. Henne beat teams with a winning record, Moore did not. Henne won on the road and not at home. They both suck in the clutch and neither should be our starter. I would take either one as a good back up, which will probably be Moore because he is still under contract for a year. Either way, we need to find a better starting QB. It is hard to think our schedule could get any easier than what Moore faced this year and still sucked.

 

[dolpns13]

You do realize our division has the same schedule?

And we have to play our division...

Matt Moore and playoffs LOL...So the end game for Matt Moore fans is just playoffs and getting bounced?

The hope is that with a new HC comes an upgraded team. That being said if we can go 3-3 in the division, yes, we have a very good shot at the playoffs, even with Matt Moore as our starter. Lets also not forget that to end the season, Matt Moore was the second best QB in the division. Give credit where credit is due.

 

[LANGER72]

Carolina believed in Moore and where did that get them? Maybe he is our franchise QB but in NO way do you go into this next season expecting anything more from him than a mediocre season.

Miami can not afford to sit back and gamble on a mediocre talent like Matt Moore.

I have never said that we should just give Moore the job. I am all for drafting a project or making a trade to get an upgraded starter to compete with Moore. Those scenarios are just a long shot to replace Moore at this point. Moore did a pretty good job and with additional weapons he might do better. No reaching and mortgaging the future.

 

[67Stang]

Henne and Moore suck equally as starting QBs and their record bares that.

 

[67Stang]

The hope is that with a new HC comes an upgraded team. That being said if we can go 3-3 in the division, yes, we have a very good shot at the playoffs, even with Matt Moore as our starter. Lets also not forget that to end the season, Matt Moore was the second best QB in the division. Give credit where credit is due.

How can you say that when Moore was sub par against a schedule with one winning team? So we go 3-3 in our division, how do we make the playoffs based on Moores inability to win against a weak schedule this year?

 

[LANGER72]

That is up for debate and it is basically a coin flip. People sight Moore's TD-Int ratio and don't throw in the fumbles. Henne beat teams with a winning record, Moore did not. Henne won on the road and not at home. They both suck in the clutch and neither should be our starter. I would take either one as a good back up, which will probably be Moore because he is still under contract for a year. Either way, we need to find a better starting QB. It is hard to think our schedule could get any easier than what Moore faced this year and still sucked.

Moore is more nimble in the pocket and he doesn't lock onto receivers like Henne does, plus I think he throws a more catch able ball. Just more efficient. We had a lot of 20+ yard plays with Moore. Now if he can just stop fumbling. Henne checked down too much.

 

[The Tannehills Have Eyes]

Holy Mother of God there's 2 red cars posting above me.

 

[dolpns13]

Henne and Moore suck equally as starting QBs and their record bares that.

Not saying Moore is the savior but he certainly doesnt suck as equally as Henne does, as Henne's winning percentage is 32% and Moore's is 55%, as a starter.

 

[dolpns13]

That is up for debate and it is basically a coin flip. People sight Moore's TD-Int ratio and don't throw in the fumbles. Henne beat teams with a winning record, Moore did not. Henne won on the road and not at home. They both suck in the clutch and neither should be our starter. I would take either one as a good back up, which will probably be Moore because he is still under contract for a year. Either way, we need to find a better starting QB. It is hard to think our schedule could get any easier than what Moore faced this year and still sucked.

No arguement here.. Im saying if we HAD to choose one over the other you definitely go Moore over Henne.

 

[67Stang]

Moore is more nimble in the pocket and he doesn't lock onto receivers like Henne does, plus I think he throws a more catch able ball. Just more efficient. We had a lot of 20+ yard plays with Moore. Now if he can just stop fumbling. Henne checked down too much.

Hmmmm so why does Henne have over a Half yard more per completion? Henne was leading the league in 20 plus yard passes before getting hurt. He was also checking down way less. I would also say that anyone with 14 fumbles in 12 games should not be used in the same sentence as pocket presence. Also Moore on more than one occasion could have ran in for a TD and didn't because of his lack of pocket presence. Please don't look at this as a Henne support statement, it isn't. It is a Moore is simply not much if any better and definitely not in these aspects.

 

[LANGER72]

Carolina believed in Moore and where did that get them? Maybe he is our franchise QB but in NO way do you go into this next season expecting anything more from him than a mediocre season.

Miami can not afford to sit back and gamble on a mediocre talent like Matt Moore.

Carolina sucked and was able to draft Cam Newton. That guy was great as a rookie and is only going to get better.

Matt Moore ended up with a better rating than Cam this past season, and statistically right behind Flacco and Rapesberger, both 12-4 teams. Moore was 12Th statistically and had a 6-3 record.

I think your assessment of Moore is not based on facts.

 

[67Stang]

Carolina sucked and was able to draft Cam Newton. That guy was great as a rookie and is only going to get better.

Matt Moore ended up with a better rating than Cam this past season, and statistically right behind Flacco and Rapesberger, both 12-4 teams. Moore was 12Th statistically and had a 6-3 record.

I think your assessment of Moore is not based on facts.

6-3 record? What are you talking about? He was 6-6 as a starter and 6-7 counting the SD game that he played most of.

 

[Vaark]

I do watch the games thanks. I saw your post that blamed the defense for his 3 losses. The defense was the reason we won some of those games. He is not good. He is careless with the ball hence the 14 fumbles and 6 ints. Yea must be some one else's fault. Come on. He was he same way in Carolina. If we don't draft a qb then I guess we will see. He will regress next year the same way he did in Carolina. Alex smith will not last another 2 years in San Fran because harbaugh will not accept serviceable qb play. Wait and see. Also look up the last 20 super bowl winners and see how many had serviceable qbs. 2 out of 20. But their defense were incredible. You need a great qb to win the super bowl, but I am not sure how much I believe in your opinion when you compare Moore to montanna

He did regress in 10 after an impressive 5 game stint in 09. But putting that into proper perspective, Moore got concussed in his 1st game, sat out the next 2 and ended up 1-4 as a starter. Now you can say that's bad, but when you consider that Carolina won all of 2 whole games that year, for all intents and purposes, Moore was responsible for 50% of their wins while starting less than 32% of their games. In 2010, Carolina ranked 32nd in scoring, 32nd in pts differentiaql and 26th in points allowed, so you could put most any QB in there and label him a failure. Steve Smith had all of 554 yards on 46 receptions and DeAngelo and Steward combined for about 1150 yards together.

Now compare that to Cam Newton who worked with an upgraded roster this season. Do you know that after the first 10 games he was 1-9.. before he clicked in? And that's with upgraded defense, a fresh coach who wasn't going through the motions as a lame duck and 2 upgraded TEs!!

It's a buzz kill, isn't it when facts and context get in the way of a nice convenient narrative, eh?