Would You Welcome Jonathan Martin Back Next Season?

[justdon]

Let cog and martin go some where else.We don't need anymore drama.

 

[Canadianfishfan]

Let cog and martin go some where else.We don't need anymore drama.

They could go to couples therapy together. Since they're such close Bros.

 

[GasPed]

Bring Martin back and you get a team of marshmallows. And personally, I'd rather win a championship with a bunch of politically incorrect loudmouths, than a bunch of marshmallows in need of serious therapy.

Are you kidding me? Winning a championship with marshmallows would be way less maintenance and expensive (less hotel damages, posting bail, settling golf club molestation out of court, etc.).

Of course, whether you can win with marshmallows is another question....

 

[Fin Fan in Cali]

They could go to couples therapy together. Since they're such close Bros.

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They could go to couples therapy together. Since they're such close Bros.

Bro you should renew your VIP membership.:brewskis:

 

[Djavelin]

His days in Miami are done. Cog is done too. No need for distractions and inferior play.
The line didn't miss them. We need good well mannerd players. We need this online fixed.
Get a real online that can do thier job. And be a Team member.

 

[spiketex]

He'll no, Martin = coward, snitch plus is mentally unstable which equates to morale rot to the entire team

Totally disagree. The problem was caused because he didn't speak up. This concept that snitching is a major locker room offense seems wrong. We need an environment where the players can come forward to discuss their problems. This notion that Turner lectured and cultivated the Judas code and Incognito enforced it, was a major part of the problem.

 

[CChambers84]

Martin caused 2 maybe 3 people their job. He will potentially cause Pouncy to be suspended and embarrassed this franchise. Who would welcome him back? Certainly not the fans

 

[NCFINFAN13]

Cut him outright. Who cares about compensation. No one is going to give us anything but a bloody tampon for him anyway.

 

[Canadianfishfan]

Totally disagree. The problem was caused because he didn't speak up. This concept that snitching is a major locker room offense seems wrong. We need an environment where the players can come forward to discuss their problems. This notion that Turner lectured and cultivated the Judas code and Incognito enforced it, was a major part of the problem.

This "Judas code" is an interesting point. Turner did after all help with getting Martin help for his depression. IMO Turner and O'Neal were canned because things were happening they either knew about and witnessed and didn't address the issue themselves, or as reported contributed to. They were coaches, not "one of the boys".

The talk of Martin saying something to anyone in that building is telling. He could talk about his mental problems but he couldn't defend himself. Which if he said to anyone would've likely been the end of it.

I don't think Richie enforced anything but his poor judgement and bad taste.

I don't think what happened in Miami caused Martin's issues, merely exacerbated it's previous condition.

His decline began away from the team and teammates.

 

[Nawledge]

no I would not welcome martin back, he's a soft little piece of ****.

 

[Bob512]

This "Judas code" is an interesting point. Turner did after all help with getting Martin help for his depression. IMO Turner and O'Neal were canned because things were happening they either knew about and witnessed and didn't address the issue themselves, or as reported contributed to. They were coaches, not "one of the boys".

The talk of Martin saying something to anyone in that building is telling. He could talk about his mental problems but he couldn't defend himself. Which if he said to anyone would've likely been the end of it.

I don't think Richie enforced anything but his poor judgement and bad taste.

I don't think what happened in Miami caused Martin's issues, merely exacerbated it's previous condition.

His decline began away from the team and teammates.

This is a good summary.

Also, don't be surprised if Martin is a Dolphin next year. He is currently under contract with the Phins and there is legal thought (posted in several other threads on this site) that just cutting him could be viewed as retaliation by the Phins.

I would suspect their either deal him to another team or he stays with the Phins.

 

[So Be]

IF the players said that they would welcome him back, would anyone here disagree with them? If so, why?

 

[NJ Dolphan]

IF the players said that they would welcome him back, would anyone here disagree with them? If so, why?

It would be really tough to believe they weren't instructed to say that, or at the very least covering their own asses if they said it. Martin is responsible for the firing of a very popular and respected trainer. And while the results might not have been there, the players liked Turner, even the player that was supposedly bullied by him.

At this point, Martin, even if he all the sudden got his head on straight, is barely a replacement level offensive lineman. As I've said before, if he's back with the team, I will be convinced that Ross is less interested in winning football games, as he is in being accepted in polite society.


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[dlockz]

IF the players said that they would welcome him back, would anyone here disagree with them? If so, why?

If the players left agree that he can come back , why not. They are the guys that work with him. People break down on many jobs and most don't address the issue until its too late. If things are cleared and he is checked out Im all about second chances esp when its not like he has raped , attacked or killed anybody. people did lose their jobs and if they had been professionals we probably wouldn't be having this conversation. Martin needs to be thoroughly evaluated before he plays for any team.

 

[So Be]

If the players left agree that he can come back , why not. They are the guys that work with him. People break down on many jobs and most don't address the issue until its too late. If things are cleared and he is checked out Im all about second chances esp when its not like he has raped , attacked or killed anybody. people did lose their jobs and if they had been professionals we probably wouldn't be having this conversation. Martin needs to be thoroughly evaluated before he plays for any team.

Yeah, that was my main point. IF the players agree to have him back, who are we to disagree?