Phinzone said:
that was directed at the Bill's fan :) . Apparenly I hurt his feelings because I don't think Losman will be a respectable QB down the road. He hinted at us being "homers" and said we think Poole, and yadda yadda yadda are going to be the best players ever just because their phins. What he doesn't understand is, I dislike Losman for my own reasons and not JUST because he became a bill. Hell, had they snagged RIvers I'd crap my pants and tell him he has a future franchise QB on his hands..but as it is...he has Losman, :roflmao:
ANYWAY, in reflection of what you said. There's a difference between confidence, and ****y. Would you consider TO to be a team leader? Or Randy Moss? I sure wouldn't. Sure their great players, but they don't command the respect of their fellow players. QB's such as Favre, Marino, Vick, etc. Make other players around them better. They steer the game and make the other players have faith in them. Their confident, maybe a little ****y, but above all their leaders.
Losman is not. THat kids is going to take a LOT of lumps in this league. His ego is big. Some compare his attitude to Favre's...fine and dandy, but Favre has actually PROVED somethingand has a right ot be ****y. If losman walks in like a ball of fire thinking he's the man and he's going ot make plays with his athletic ability, he will be sorely disappointed. The biggest thing for this kid, is he's going to have to make huge leaps in his mental game. He'l rely on reading D's now, more than his own to feet to scrammble, and will need accuracy more than his cannon. Your going to see this kid burnt...a lot. He'll try to muscle throws where he sholdn't. He did this in college and got burnt, it'll only get worse in the pro's.
That's not to say he's going to be a total flop. IF and I do mean IF he can make the mental leap, he could be a good QB. But when put side by side with other QB's in this draft, he's sorely lacking in the respectability area. There's WAY too many questions with this kid to be worth blowing a first rounder on. He's going to take years on the bench before he can play (and I don't think he's mature enough to accept that). He never sets his feet, and like I said, will need ot work hard core on his reads. It can be done, but he's a long way away. Feeley is far and away better than Losman at this point. Just watch :D
Haha! That's nothing but your opinion. It's been noted however. :roflmao: You're basing hiw perfomance on his ****iness?
Here's other peoples opinion. The one's that actually play w/ him or coach him. Any chance you are more qualified than they are?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-bills-losman&prov=ap&type=lgns
Here's another from a HOF qb. You wouldn't happen to be a former NFL player would you?
http://www.nola.com/sports/t-p/index.ssf?/base/sports-11/1087111841241430.xml
Here's one from a Tulane fan who actually follows him unlike you.
"Hi, Thanks for visiting.
I don't know where this thing of Losman having an attitude problem came from. I mean, I read a scouting report on ESPN.Com which had a "c" notation next to his name, denoting "character issues." What? This kid graduated in 4 years with over a 3.0 in Classical studies. He has NEVER been in trouble. His teammates love him. They took some time to get adjusted to him at first, following Ramsey (two TOTALLY different styles), but they did respect him.
Ever notice that as much as he talks himself up and says that he is best, he NEVER uses the argument that he had a weak offensive line in college? And you know what, he did (so did Ramsey, both really tough guys). All the scouts pointed out, but through all his self-promoting, he never mentioned it once. He has NEVER publicly criticized a teammate or a coach. He works HARD. He wants to win. He is much harder on himself than anyone else can be. In fact, I would say J.P.'s BIGGEST problem is that he presses too much and tries to do too much. Its all the pressure he puts on himself. You can see how seriously he takes the game. I really think he needs to learn how to relax and just play football, let it come naturally. That ain't an easy thing though.
My point is, he has no attitude problem. He hasn't said anything that any other QB hasn't also said. Each of the guys that went in the first round said unequivocally they were the best available. Why did JP get tagged as some sort of character question mark? I don't get it. The most informative peice written about JP last year was in ESPN the Magazine, in their college football preview edition. It talked a lot about the "review of athletics" we had last spring when they almost canned our football program, and how he was given advice to go into the Supplemental Draft or transfer to another school...dozens of other 1-A schools contacted him. Instead, he stayed. And he went to his rhetoric professor and asked her to help him craft a speech to the team to be given in the event that we announced that 2003 would be Tulane's 110th and final season playing football. The speech was to urge the players to stay one more year with him, to fight it out, and to make it the greatest season in TU history.
That is a leader. Where anyone gets character issues from that, I'll never know. He had the respect of everyone on the team, because he led by example, with hard work. To mention Jeff George in the same sentance with Losman is absurd.
Now as far as physical skills, he is sort of a Ramsey-King hybrid. They both have playmaking ability, the ability to turn something into nothing, and Losman has that. They also both had extreme toughness in the pocket and out of it, and Losman more than has that (see the TCU game). Losman is clearly much more mobile than Ramsey, and probably as mobile as King. His arm is comparable to Ramsey's in strength (Ramsey has a cannon), but Losman throws a prettier deep ball. Losman does not throw as many interceptions as Pat and reads defenses better, (at the college level). Many of Losman's interceptions were off of deflections.
Best thing about JP is his competitiveness and confidence. Down 14 with 5 minutes left against Mississippi State, he not only thought we had a chance, he expected to would win the game. He led two touchdown drives, throwing for both, and took us down the field a third time to the 15 yard line so we could kick a FG to win 31-28.
I think Buffalo got the best QB pick in the draft. Give him a year or two. Let him learn how to be a professional give him some solid coaching. You'll be very pleased.
Also, any comparisons your fans might be making to Rob Johnson are way off base. Johnson was a laid back guy who had no toughness. Losman is a competitor who is tough as nails and will get in your face. His teammates will love him."
Granted they are nothing but opinions (like yours :D ) These guys are more qualified than you are. I won't say J.P. will be great or good (only time will tell) but unlike you I am not gonna state that he is a definite bust either (because of "atittude problems? funny Tulane fans don't share that opinion) unlike some people here who "think" they know what's gonna happen a year or two from now.
