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Erik Pendleton said:
So Numbnuts is right because his team is winning? That actually has nothing to do with mine and his conversation, but thank you so much for throwing in your highly valued two sense.

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Prob would look like Squidward after he eats all those crappy pattys that one episode lol.
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Now you have gone too far, making fun of crabby patties??!!:lol:
 
Erik Pendleton said:
So Numbnuts is right because his team is winning? That actually has nothing to do with mine and his conversation, but thank you so much for throwing in your highly valued two sense.

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Prob would look like Squidward after he eats all those crappy pattys that one episode lol.
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I love that episode! Especially when Spongebob gets the ****eating grin on his face once he realizes that Squiddy loves crabbie patties. I admit...I watch Spongebob...with my kids.
 
Jersey DolFan said:
have been building for years with the same philosophy as we are building now...with parcells coaching tree HC's ...

mangini drafted several of the jets core players and feilded decent teams but never quite got it done


Pats same thing and look they are NEVER out of contention.

Parcells himself also coached both these teams.


the miami dolphins are 2 years removed from a 1-15 season , and being one of the most gutted and deflated franchises in the league.

the dissappointment this year comes more from fans with way too high expectations than from an actual chance at true contention. most of us realistic people predicted an 8-8 or 9-7 season. we have GREAT building blocks on this team...tons of young guys gelling 2gether and forming a formitable team.

the building isnt over and we jsut arent that good yet .... if we GUT this whole front office and coaching staff we area only starting over froms cratch again. i just hope ross isnt as silly and whiny as most of you fans.
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In retrospect, The jest did not get a franchise QB and then build around him? How dare they? Don't tell WV.
 
nyjunc said:
Who brought up the 70s and 80s? who is brining up histories? It's great that Miami was better from the 70s through the mid 90s but that is ancient history. The discussion was about the 2000s and in the 2000s we were one of the better AFC teams, you called us mediocre but the 4th bst team in terms of playoff apps is not mediocre.

Have fun watching old highlights of the 70s and 80s when Miami had great teams, i'll enjoy my team right now and in the coming years.


Where are all these playoff letdowns? What playoff game have we been favored in that e lost in recent years?
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I believe if you read your previous post you so elegantly threw my way you will see where you begin to rehash and go back to the mid-early 90s. I know its very difficult to remember the nonsense you spew out of your mouth that you call a post, so i wont dwell on that any longer.
I simply said "History" not "70s and 80s", ok now im really done with that. lol.

Sure your 4th best in terms of playoff appearances but your TIED FOR LAST IN SB WINS this decade! WOOT! Did you catch that? I REALLY CAPPED IT OUT FOR YOU SO YOU DON'T MISS IT.

Jets - 5 Appearances, ZERO SB Appearances
Phins - 3 Appearances, ZERO SB Appearances

You don't know what a playoff letdown is?
Well I for one am extremely hardcore and whenever we do make the tourney I get my hopes up big time. I could not care less what people say and who is favored. Any given Sunday. Losing in the Tourney = Playoff Letdown.

EEP
 
Akronfinfan36 said:
I love that episode! Especially when Spongebob gets the ****eating grin on his face once he realizes that Squiddy loves crabbie patties. I admit...I watch Spongebob...with my kids.
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Dang dude im 20 and I still love to grind out an episode of SB when ever I can! Oh i also really enjoy Phineas and Ferb, that show is boss!
 
Tom Brady notwithstanding, I am going to go out on a limb and suggest that, over the past 3-4 years, the Jets and Pats organizations have been better than the Dolphins in both stockpiling talent through the draft and via free agency.

Over that same time, the Jets coaching staffs versus the Dolphins coaching staffs? Maybe a wash?

The Pats coaching staffs versus the Dolphins coaching staffs? Big advantage to the Pats.

That is why the Dolphins are mired in crap and the Jets and Pats are moving forward.
 
Erik Pendleton said:
I believe if you read your previous post you so elegantly threw my way you will see where you begin to rehash and go back to the mid-early 90s. I know its very difficult to remember the nonsense you spew out of your mouth that you call a post, so i wont dwell on that any longer.
I simply said "History" not "70s and 80s", ok now im really done with that. lol.

Sure your 4th best in terms of playoff appearances but your TIED FOR LAST IN SB WINS this decade! WOOT! Did you catch that? I REALLY CAPPED IT OUT FOR YOU SO YOU DON'T MISS IT.

Jets - 5 Appearances, ZERO SB Appearances
Phins - 3 Appearances, ZERO SB Appearances

You don't know what a playoff letdown is?
Well I for one am extremely hardcore and whenever we do make the tourney I get my hopes up big time. I could not care less what people say and who is favored. Any given Sunday. Losing in the Tourney = Playoff Letdown.

EEP
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I was making a point about Miami not making a title game sicne 1992 and not being close since 1994.



Using your criteria, if we win the SB this year we will be the better all time franchise since we would be 2-0 in SBs and you guys would be 2-3. I hope to see you in feb saying this if we are lucky enough to win it.
 
Erik Pendleton said:
So a good team goes 2002-playoffs, 2003- 6-10, 2004 - playoffs, 2005 - 4-12, 2006 - Playoffs, 2007 4-12 ?

For someone talking about there best decade ever, that's pretty flipping inconsistent.
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It has been. The Jets went thru a number of coaches and QB's over that period of time, while the Pats dominated the decade with consistency because they had Belichick and Brady.

Jets are in the second year of Ryan and Sanchez. The first year they reached the AFC Championship game, and this year they're currently tied with best record in football. It looks like the Jets may have found the coach/QB combo that works for them.

Meanwhile, Miami has Sparano and Henne. Or Thigpen. Or draft pick #1.

Until Miami figures out the coach/QB thing, they're going to be consistently in third place in the AFCe. If they bet on Sparano and Henne again next year, they better hope they're right. Otherwise, they'll just be another year behind.
 
I am curious about this rebuilding plan when the pats defence plays - 4 rookies and 4 second yr and 1 3rd yr player.rebuilding

offence - 2 rookies and 2 second yr player.
 
DolfanISS said:
You are so right! I live in New England and I have to say it’s truly remarkable what the Patriots do year in and year out and of course for a Fins fan it’s frustrating. This is probably why sometimes I’m such a negative nelly on here, this is probably where I take out my of my football frustration. The Patriots traded away their 2nd best offensive player, have the 29th or 30th ranked pass defense in the NFL. They have RB’s who really aren’t that talented, one of which wasn’t good enough to make the Jets. There WR’s are made up of a guy coming off an ACL tear and another guy they just should have paid 6 years ago and their deep threat is pretty much non-existent most of the time. Seriously I keep my happy face on when talking to Pats fans about football, “nice win by the Pats Sunday” but inside it kills me. If I hear another Pats fan bragging to me about Danny Woodhead I’m probably going to lose it. To rub salt in your wounds Belechick takes your re-treads then kicks your *** with them. I’m telling you right now Ronnie Brown to New England will be an absolute disaster for us if it happens, just wait. Tom Brady and bill Belechick just keep churning out wins regardless of who they put on the field. It’s unbelievable.

Here are some other reasons why I think they do this, Brady of course, like you said, is the biggest. Continuity on the O-line, we have almost none, in 3 seasons we’ve had 3 G-C-G combos that sucks. New Englands has been the same with minor exceptions and any guy they’ve inserted had pretty much been developed by them. Even now their RT, Nick Kaczur, is out for the season so Vollmer plays RT I think he is Matt Lights heir apparent so they already are developing their future LT. There TE’s are all specialists. This is a very important position to BB and it’s so unimportant to us we came into the season with one known commodity and all crap after that. You have the all around in Gronk, the pass catcher in Hernandez and the blocker in Crumpler. They also have either Faulk, who got hurt, and now the greatest player to ever show up in Foxboro in Woodhead to create mismatches in the passing game as well. You see the Patriots don’t do the crap we do like, we’re a power running team and that’s that, we will play to our strengths and that’s it. No instead they identify weaknesses and mismatches and attack them. It’s smart football. Trying to force your philosophy on a your team is crap, your game plan should be all about the other team and NE’s always is. Look how they always play Pittsburgh, do they run into the brick wall? No, they spread them out and beat them with short quick passes then mix in the run and Pittsburgh couldn’t stop that either.

OK enough about NE. I’ll tell you (blasphemy) I’d rather see the Jets win the AFC East then the Patriots again. I just can’t take it anymore.
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Great Post! I also live in the home of that enemy, and see it the same way. I'd also add that the Pats have consistently focused on adding team guys who care most about winning, and especially true grit gamers who lack measurables. That's why they acquired our own Wes Welker, and keep using him to kick our ***. Now they've done it again with Woodhead. And how about Ninkovich, who we got rid of. They would never have brought in a ME guy like Marshall. It's true that they stepped out of that model with Moss, but only because he's the greatest WR talent of all time, and they got him for a 4th round pick, not two second rounders. When he became a distraction, they cut the cord quick.

We had one of these true grit gamers without measurables for the past couple years named Greg Camarillo, and we traded him away for s**it. That's when I lost it.
 
JB1089 said:
A strong core isn't worth much without a quarterback to lead it.
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And this is what I think most of us are pissed off about (besides poor playcalling in general on offense). Over a decade of below average QBs in Miami - at some point you man up, roll the ****ing dice, trade up if you have to, but select a goddamn QB with a ceiling high enough to lead your franchise for the next decade or so. If you fail fine, then you keep at it. But to quote Wayne Gretzky "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take". That pretty much sums up our QB situation since Marino, and will continue to describe us until we start taking those shots.
 
many of the pats starters are 1 and 2 year players...

BB knows how to pick players...we ****ing don't.

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oh and the pats have belicheck picking their players and the jets have ryan/tannabeam...

we have morons.
 
yeah... and drafting players like John Beck, Ted Ginn, Pat White, Pat Turner and all the other whiffs didn't have too much to do with our current situation.... The Pats are the best when it comes to the draft, and that's why they are the best in the league right now. They rarely miss. We perfected missing players in the draft.
 
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