WVDolphan's Get Real - Week 11 Recap/We have a couple of Jests on our team

[flynryan15]

Yes Jake Boselli making the Probowl I forgot the finheaven barometer of a successful season.

 

[Adam Strange]

For all of the knocking of Shula's drafts (not all undeserved certainly), he was able to get a lot more value out of worse picks in the early 90s than pretty much any Dolphins regime since JJ.

Some great drafting here, especially when you take into account where they were drafted-- Ronnie Brown (#2 overall), Jason Allen (top 20 pick), Jake Long (#1 overall), Ted Ginn (top 10 pick)-- two already off the team because they pretty much sucked, one who was finally let go after under-producing his entire career, and one #1 overall pick who's looking more and more like a mistake every day.

 

[Gonzo]

That's not fair at all. Long made 4 pro bowls, for god's sake. If he were a free agent he would have absolutely no problem getting picked up; in fact, there would be probably a dozen teams in line.

I like how lots of people are currently hating on the phins not shoring up the supporting cast for the QB. Oh wait, that's what we did by picking Long, and we won the division that year.

Stopped reading right there. The Pro Bowl is the most overrated and misused method of judging a player's ability. The league will be far better off without that garbage popularity contest. Jake Long gets in based on name recognition from being the (incorrect) first overall pick. Nothing else. You could maybe justify it the first year or two, but nothing after that.

This chump will probably get into the Pro Bowl again this year, but it will most certainly have NOTHING to do with his play, which has been flat out atrocious.

 

[Twitches Brew]

Stopped reading right there. The Pro Bowl is the most overrated and misused method of judging a player's ability. The league will be far better off without that garbage popularity contest. Jake Long gets in based on name recognition from being the (incorrect) first overall pick. Nothing else. You could maybe justify it the first year or two, but nothing after that.

This chump will probably get into the Pro Bowl again this year, but it will most certainly have NOTHING to do with his play, which has been flat out atrocious.

I think we gave up something like 45 sacks in 2007. In 2008 with Long that number dropped to 26.

 

[Gonzo]

Was I arguing that RT is free of criticism? All I said was give him a year (or more), give him talented play makers. Then, if he still sucks, make all the asinine comparisons you want. Whats wrong with that?

Also, anyone arguing that RT lost us this game is absolutely delusional. Sorry, it just seems like every other post on these boards is about how Tanne sucks... that's just not the case. A determination cannot be made about this just yet.

Well, if you are saying we need to give him a year, then yes, you are saying he should currently be free of criticism...

You may need a year to make criticisms, the rest of us can do so while he is progressing (or in this game, regressing). Again, you are lumping them all together, legitimate criticism and idiotic comparisons alike, which is ridiculous. You can't tell the difference between the two forms of criticism?

Where did WV or anybody else in this thread say that Tannehill sucks? He most certainly sucked in this game, but nobody said he sucks overall. He most certainly didn't lose the game by himself, but he absolutely did play a major role in it. Hell, the last interception is all that is needed to add him to that list. That was a flat out horrible throw and decision. A double covered receiver in the middle of the field when you have no time outs AND the ball is thrown well behind him? You simply can't defend that. Does it mean he's the next Ryan Leaf? **** no, but it does mean he has a lot of work to do in practice the next few weeks, particularly when it comes to decision making and accuracy.

 

[Gonzo]

I think we gave up something like 45 sacks in 2007. In 2008 with Long that number dropped to 26.

Awesome, let's hop in the DeLorean and head back to 2008 when that mattered. Also helped that we went from **** QBs to a QB that knew how to get the ball out in Chad Pennington.

 

[akunation]

We were clearly fools gold thru the first 7 weeks. With the playoff chances all but done, its time to evaluiate the talent on this roster. Let's see what Matthews, Egnew and Miller can do. Open up the playbook and see what Tannehill can do as well.

 

[finfanaz]

This team is officially a disgrace. We have some serious work to do in the personel department. We need to acquire some real talent all over this offense. Defensively, we have some guys to work with, but still lack guys who can make impact plays.

But, let me start with a couple of guys who should be New York Jests, because they would be a real nice fit on that team since they talk big and play small.

Reggie Bush - All week we had to hear this nonsense about Reggie Bush didnt deserve to be benched, he is the only playmaker we have on offense, and Philbin was making a crucial error.

Let me tell you a little about Reggie Bush. Reggie Bush is a huge vagina. This is why he occasionally makes an explosive play. He is so moist and slippery that he can be tough for the defense to nail down. Yet, when he tries to run laterally, he gets stretched out by black guys.

All week we had to listen to Reggie Bush run his mouth, making apologies, and talking about how he is going to step it up. First of all Reggie, we dont need you to tell us that you have blown for weeks now. We have been watching. Secondly, I dont need you to confirm Philbin's decision to sit you on the bench. It was a good move not just because you fumbled, but you simply havent ran hard since Laron Landry hot sauced you. You are killing this team since that time. Finally, I dont want to hear out of your mouth how you are going to step up. Lets see it OK. Dont be a JET. Be a real leader. Lead with your play on the field.

Again, since Reggie got hot sauced, he hasnt been worth a damn. He is dancing and running soft. He laid down in the 2nd half of that Jests game when he couldve played and that was one of the big reasons we lost that game. Reggie fails to show up when it counts. This is all because Reggie Bush is a huge gash.

Reggie Bush is one of the most overrated players in the NFL. He is up there with Scam Newton, Vick, RG3 and 6, and others. He is all hype. The guy makes a highlight reel run every 2 months and he is supposed to be a playmaker? Get real. All Reggie Bush is, is a celebrity. Thats it. Its part of the hip hop culture and the hype of dating porn stars with herpes.

One of the biggest excuses I get sick of hearing for this guy is "they are using him wrong". This is complete nonsense. Just admit he is nothing more than a decent 3rd down/scat back. He is not a real starting RB. Simple as that. Notice on that last run he had where he actually gained 10 yards, even Mayock pointed out how right before impact, Reggie slows up and braces himself for the hit. A real RB would hammer through that. Even if you dont break the tackle, act like a real RB and serve punishment. WRs take dives and find the sidelines. RBs are supposed to punish. But, hey. Reggie is not a RB. He is a scatback/3rd down RB.

The draft has become such an overhyped event that everyone who is drafted high is automatically perceived as this great player. It wasnt long ago that guys drafted in the top few picks werent annointed so easily. They had to prove it on the field. Now days with all the Mayocks, Kipers, and McShays of the world with their mock drafts in October before the draft order is even set(I cant explain that ****. Cant figure the point.) if youre drafted early, youre a household name. Reggie Bush is a guy who was going to be cut in New Orleans and only traded for a 6th round pick because Miami wanted to avoid him hitting the open market. Yet, because he is a name and was drafted 2nd overall, he gets credit for being a big time NFL RB.

This brings me to the 2nd incredibly overrated player on this team...... Jake Wrong.

Jake Wrong is an overpaid, overrated, fat, cornfed, piece of ****. All this talk about pro bowls is nonsense. He isnt even one of the best 10 LTs in the league. Matty Ice would be a better LT than Jake Wrong.

This guy continues to get straight up bullied. He got blown up on a toss play by a completely washed up, roided out, Merriman. Sean Merriman. This guy barely hangs on an NFL roster. Yet, he made Jake Wrong his bitch. And this is the guy some of you are talking about we need to resign? For what? I wouldnt resign him if he took a so called hometown discount. I wouldnt resign him if he took bottom tier LT money. He is garbage.

Almost every play where Martin gets smoked at RT, Jake is getting beaten as well. Its like the DEs from the opposition have a meeting at Tannehill. Jake Wrong got straight bullrushed on that play where Martin's man got a sack. If he hadnt gotten there, whoever Long was attempting to block was getting a sack.

Week after week he just gets worse and worse. Im really sick of hearing he is injured too. I havent seen him on the injury report. If he is injured, then dont play. If youre going to play, I dont want to hear excuses.

This idea that Jake Wrong is some kind of a leader is ridiculous. Get your big ugly Michigan tatoo off my team. Turn your hat around and find the first flight out of Miami.

Im not so sure Martin can play LT either. I hope its just a case of he is playing out of position and needs experience because he gets beaten like a drum over there.

Incogniblow is terrible too. Go take pride in your dirtiest player hype somewhere else. All this OL has is Pouncey and Jerry. We have a lot of work to do with this group. Unreal. All that cornfed drafting and we have total **** for OL.

Defensively we werent horrible tonight, holding Buffalo to 4 FGs. But, this defense lacks playmakers. I get tired of hearing how Wake gets held. Make a play. And when you finally get a sack because no one blocked you and we are losing by 12, I can do without the dancing and posing OK.

This secondary is pathetic. Im glad to see Jones emerging. He was all over the field tonight. But, nobody in this secondary wants to make a big play. Intercept a ball more than once every month would ya please. Jimmy Wilson cost us a critical 3 points. That ball was in the air so long he couldve fair caught the thing. What was the point in going to the ground? Just walk under it and catch it.

I gave Dansby a lot of grief in the preseason. But, to his credit, he is the lone one of those so called "leadership council" members who has any ****ing balls. His play has backed up his talk. He needs to keep it quiet when things dont go his way, but his play has matched that of a leader. He also played the 2nd half of that big win over the Jests with an injury. Reggie Bush dosent have that kind of guts. Notice btw, the first time we crossed midfield tonight was when Bush was on the sidelines. Just like when he got benched last week, our lone scoring drive was with Bush on the sideline.

Now I have to talk about Tannehill before I wrap this up.

Ryan Tannehill has played like complete dog**** for 10 qtrs now. He has been terrible. And while its true the OL has been total garbage and we dont have much in the way of skills position players, I dont want to hear those excuses. Players have to be accountable for their own play and that includes the rookie QB.

The reality is that there were plays to be made out there and Tannehill has not made them. He is missing on throws that are there. That play to Clay wouldve been a huge one. He missed that throw by a mile. He is even missing on simple screens. There was one to Bush that couldve been a big play but, Tannehill missed. He just is not making good throws or good decisions right now when he has the chance.

Despite how badly the OL played and the lack of talent on offense, if Tannehill had played well, we couldve won tonight. He needs to get it together or we are going to be completely justified in wondering if he really is our guy going forward.

Lastly, I dont want to hear the bull**** about playcalling. Look, when you have a complete lack of talent on offense and poor execution, there is not a playcall that is going to work. It isnt the playcalling. Its bad play by bad players. Put some talent out there and guys who can execute and those plays will work just fine. This is a fact because those plays have worked many times before. Its just when they worked, they were ran by good players who executed them properly. They werent ran by scrubs who cant get open, cant block anybody, and cant throw it where it needs to be thrown. Simple as that.

The one thing the coaches can do better is realize what they have. Get it through their heads that Reggie Bush dosent need to be starting or getting a bunch of carries. He needs to be brought in on 3rd downs to block a blitz or exploit a mismatch in the passing game. Give him a couple of carries on a draw or something, but stop trying to use him as a grinder. Daniel Thomas is our regular RB.

They should also realize that Devone Bess does not belong on the field unless its 3rd down and we are in a 3 WR set that includes him IN THE SLOT. He is a great mismatch to exploit in that situation, but a wide out he is not. He simply dosent belong on the field spread wide. He gives you no threat at all down the field. It makes the defenses job so much easier and allows them to cut off a lot of the field. It hurts our run game.

Hartline is fine. He can threaten a defense deep. Bess is great in the slot. When you go 3 wide, he should absolutely be out there. But, hey. If Moore, Matthews, or Gaffney cant be the WR opposite Hartline, then were screwed. Bess simply isnt an option in that spot. Personally, I think Matthews should get opportunities. At this point, there is nothing to lose and I think we could be missing out on something. Give the kid a chance.

Get Long and Bush off of this team. Give Matthews a chance. Load up on guys who can make plays in this draft. Defensively we need guys in the secondary who can actually intercept a ball and guys who can really threaten the QB without everyone complaining they are being held on every play. Offensively, we need guys who can threaten the defense with speed. If we can get some of these players, we may have a shot. But, even if we do, Tannehill is going to have to play better or we will never win anything.

This is the worst post I've seen on FH this season. You mad kid? Talk about disrespectful.. Having a smart conversation regarding our teams performance, along with constructive criticism is one thing. Going on some middle school rant like some angry little boy is quite another..

I'm reading through your post and I don't even know where to begin dissecting this piece of garbage.. Yeah some of these players are obviously showing they don't fit in this style of offense. Can we have a conversation about that rather than calling someone a "piece of ****" or "a vagina"? Then after you call our whole offense essentially garbage you get to Tannehill, our FUTURE at QB whether you like it or not, and proceed to insult him. How the **** is he supposed to be good if you think the whole rest of the offense is garbage and not worthy of a roster spot, like you say? I don't understand your logic..

Some of these guys won't be here next year. It's obvious they are phasing Reggie out, Long and some others on the OLine may have some issues with our blocking scheme and we don't have much else to help Tanne in the passing game. This is NOT a play off team.... So why the **** are you critiquing it like they are?

This is Philbins first year on the job. He's working with a lot of pieces that don't fit his system. Those people will be phased out in place of people who do fit, but just because they don't fit doesn't make them a "piece of ****". I'm just left shaking my head at dudes like this...

I'd also like to add as I just noticed, It's even more of a shame that every mod on this damn forum "thumbs up'd" this garbage..

 

[Gonzo]

This is the worst post I've seen on FH this season. You mad kid? Talk about disrespectful.. Having a smart conversation regarding our teams performance, along with constructive criticism is one thing. Going on some middle school rant like some angry little boy is quite another..

I'm reading through your post and I don't even know where to begin dissecting this piece of garbage.. Yeah some of these players are obviously showing they don't fit in this style of offense. Can we have a conversation about that rather than calling someone a "piece of ****" or "a vagina"? Then after you call our whole offense essentially garbage you get to Tannehill, our FUTURE at QB whether you like it or not, and proceed to insult him. How the **** is he supposed to be good if you think the whole rest of the offense is garbage and not worthy of a roster spot, like you say? I don't understand your logic..

Some of these guys won't be here next year. It's obvious they are phasing Reggie out, Long and some others on the OLine may have some issues with our blocking scheme and we don't have much else to help Tanne in the passing game. This is NOT a play off team.... So why the **** are you critiquing it like they are?

This is Philbins first year on the job. He's working with a lot of pieces that don't fit his system. Those people will be phased out in place of people who do fit, but just because they don't fit doesn't make them a "piece of ****". I'm just left shaking my head at dudes like this...

I'd also like to add as I just noticed, It's even more of a shame that every mod on this damn forum "thumbs up'd" this garbage..

So...we're not allowed to have opinions? Also, it's the worst post? Really? You must have missed the Tannehill to Leaf comparison, the Tanehenne threads, and the Tebow Anyone? threads.

What's funny is that you seem more mad about a post on a message board than you do about how the team performed last night, which was godawful. You respond to a "rant" with your own rant. You mad kid?

Speaking of disrespectful, nothing is more disrespectful than the performances this team has given the fans over the past two weeks against ****ty teams.

 

[finfanaz]

So...we're not allowed to have opinions? Also, it's the worst post? Really? You must have missed the Tannehill to Leaf comparison, the Tanehenne threads, and the Tebow Anyone? threads.

What's funny is that you seem more mad about a post on a message board than you do about how the team performed last night, which was godawful. You respond to a "rant" with your own rant. You mad kid?

I'm all up for having a conversation regarding our teams performance last night. Which I'll agree was terrible...

I wasn't mad that the dude had a rant. I'm sure a lot of us do after last night. I was more or less saying that it looked like a mad teen girl wrote this post. And there is very little logic in it. You seriously gonna tell me that Long, Bush, Incog and all the others on our team, not to mention RG3/Cam that he threw out there, have zero talent and deserve the moniker of "garbage" or "piece of ****"? I sure don't... And I'm sure most logical thinking people would agree.

 

[tylerdolphin]

This is the worst post I've seen on FH this season. You mad kid? Talk about disrespectful.. Having a smart conversation regarding our teams performance, along with constructive criticism is one thing. Going on some middle school rant like some angry little boy is quite another..

I'm reading through your post and I don't even know where to begin dissecting this piece of garbage.. Yeah some of these players are obviously showing they don't fit in this style of offense. Can we have a conversation about that rather than calling someone a "piece of ****" or "a vagina"? Then after you call our whole offense essentially garbage you get to Tannehill, our FUTURE at QB whether you like it or not, and proceed to insult him. How the **** is he supposed to be good if you think the whole rest of the offense is garbage and not worthy of a roster spot, like you say? I don't understand your logic..

Some of these guys won't be here next year. It's obvious they are phasing Reggie out, Long and some others on the OLine may have some issues with our blocking scheme and we don't have much else to help Tanne in the passing game. This is NOT a play off team.... So why the **** are you critiquing it like they are?

This is Philbins first year on the job. He's working with a lot of pieces that don't fit his system. Those people will be phased out in place of people who do fit, but just because they don't fit doesn't make them a "piece of ****". I'm just left shaking my head at dudes like this...

I'd also like to add as I just noticed, It's even more of a shame that every mod on this damn forum "thumbs up'd" this garbage..

Totally fell ya bro. Everyone is going full retard. If only we could convince them that this is just year 10 of the rebuild and we just need to be patient. Rome wasnt built in 10 years. Do we really expect this franchise to be better than Rome? Thats what I thought. Suck it haters.

 

[CaliFinFan420]

I can't tell you how many times I read "franchise Long" or "franchise Bush" this past week. Insane. "Letting them walk would create holes." They are holes. Huge, festering, herpes-riddled vagina holes.

Merriman! Jesus...

Your post is completely foolish. Jake Long has been an all pro every year of his career. He WILL be a hall of famer. He is having a down year but he WILL improve and has NOT been as bad as you have suggested. Reggie is NOT that bad either. Sure he's injury prone but that's why we have good depth. The truth is we have more cap and picks going into 2013 than any team in the league. I expect everyone excpet for maybe Clemons and Mcdaniel to be resigned. We will be a great team once again in thanks to our great GM. You will see IN THE FUTURE just how incorrect and quite frankly inept you are at judging football talent.

 

[Canadianfishfan]

When do the Coaches take responsibility? if Tannehill must be held acciountable then so should Philbin, Sherman and Coyle.

Thank you. I don't understand why these coaches aren't adjusting, and adding new wrinkles. Seems like the same play calling over and over, with the same result game after game. Where is the aggressiveness? Where is moving Bush from the backfield and throwing to him in open space? Speed receivers? Who cares, run em down field and bomb it to them. At least make Tannehill go deep. It's almost like a punt if it doesn't work out. Or a penalty.

Where is the imagination? Where is the adjustments? Where is keeping opposing teams guessing?

Cmon already Philbin. Mix this sucker up!

 

[tylerdolphin]

You seriously gonna tell me that Long, Bush, Incog and all the others on our team, not to mention RG3/Cam that he threw out there, have zero talent and deserve the moniker of "garbage" or "piece of ****"?

Yes.

 

[HarryBagpipe]

Your post is completely foolish. Jake Long has been an all pro every year of his career. He WILL be a hall of famer. He is having a down year but he WILL improve and has NOT been as bad as you have suggested. Reggie is NOT that bad either. Sure he's injury prone but that's why we have good depth. The truth is we have more cap and picks going into 2013 than any team in the league. I expect everyone excpet for maybe Clemons and Mcdaniel to be resigned. We will be a great team once again in thanks to our great GM. You will see IN THE FUTURE just how incorrect and quite frankly inept you are at judging football talent.

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