Can We Win A Super Bowl With Rt? | Page 3 | FinHeaven - Miami Dolphins Forums

Can We Win A Super Bowl With Rt?

First of all, Marino did not always have a better defense than Tannehill. His defense was unquestionably worse, at least from 1986-1988, and probably some other years too. Put Tannehill on those teams and they’re not getting to 8-8— the record Marino dragged them to.

As for initial post: can the team win a Super Bowl with Tannehill— yes. Will the team win the Super Bowl with Tannehill— doubtful. And if he needs the 2000 Baltimore defense or the 2015 Denver Broncos defense to do it, then who cares because it could be anyone at QB in those cases.
 
Adam Strange said:
First of all, Marino did not always have a better defense than Tannehill. His defense was unquestionably worse, at least from 1986-1988, and probably some other years too. Put Tannehill on those teams and they’re not getting to 8-8— the record Marino dragged them to.

As for initial post: can the team win a Super Bowl with Tannehill— yes. Will the team win the Super Bowl with Tannehill— doubtful. And if he needs the 2000 Baltimore defense or the 2015 Denver Broncos defense to do it, then who cares because it could be anyone at QB in those cases.
Click to expand...
AKA, Trent Dilfer, SB Champion.

Eww, that still leaves a sweaty Bill Bellichik taste in my mouth.

Wait....don't ask how I know....
 
In 2016 Tannehill had the 4th best QBR in the league from a clean pocket and the 2nd or 3rd best completion percentage of 20+yds/4th of 15+yds. And that's for the entire season including the disappointing start before the 7-1 run. He did it with an OL ranked in the low 20s which, although sub-par, was superior to the prior 2 years ranked 32 & 31.

So yes with a few caveats: he needs to stay healthy of course with similar mobility to what made him effective on rollouts for starters... and be behind an OL that at least proves average to mediocre rather than sub-par or the absolute bottom-feeders. Given those qualifiers, yes, there's ample reason to think he could be the linchpin in a team effort to get to the SB.
 
You can win with Tannehill if you have the right combination of pieces around him. I think he's very good at doing his his job, he's not the type of qb that masks poor play from multiple players around him. There are only a few qb's that can win no matter what, Tannehill hasn't shown to be that level yet and likely won't reach it. As I said earlier that's not knocking Tannehill only Hall-of-Fame level qbs have that trait.
 
Anyone know that one guy in Hard Knocks who said RT will win a Superbowl within 2 years? LOL
 
History will suggest no. Tanehill is not a top 10 QB and hasn't shown that he is capable of playing like one for a 4,5,6 game stretch. Before you give me Names like (Insert mediocre QB here) today's NFL is much different than it was then. Today's game is built around offense, the rules and style of play is geared to score points. What this means is that during a SB run, most likely at some point you will have to win a couple of shootouts, to expect a defense to shutdown opposing offenses throughout the playoffs is unreasonable. The offenses and QB's are just too good for that.

From what I've seen thus far from Tannehill, I don't trust him to win a shootout against the best QB's in the league that he'll surely face in the playoffs. I don't trust him to make the plays necessary without making a mistake. And before anyone throw Nick Foles's name out there. Whether we want to put him in the top 10 QB list or not.... over a 3-4 game stretch, he PLAYED like a top 10 QB. Some of those throws and plays he made in the games leading up to the SB and the SB itself was top 10 QB level. I don't see Tannehill doing that. But that's just my opinion based on what I've seen from TH thus far.
 
xSxPxHx said:
Anyone know that one guy in Hard Knocks who said RT will win a Superbowl within 2 years? LOL
Click to expand...
I don’t know about that, but there was at least one poster on this site who said Tannehill was a guaranteed Hall of Famer— hope he’s not holding his breath.
 
Yes we can.the better question is will we? I mean we couldn't win with marino
 
No QB in the NFL has done more with less.

And it's not even close.

In Tannehill's 5 seasons as the starter, the most productive years given to him by offensive teammates are probably Kenny Stills and Laremy Tunsil's 2016 seasons and Lamar Miller in 2014.

I've said it a million times that I believe our franchise is much luckier to have Ryan Tannehill and than Ryan Tannehill was lucky to be a Dolphin.

Joe Philbin? Really.

The only players on the team from the 2009-2014 drafts, besides RT, are Ju'Wuan James and Walt Aikens.

Let's build the kind of team Nick Foles can win a super bowl with, that way when Ryan Tannehill is on the field the score won't be as close.

Is there a human being alive who's credentials include "Has beaten Tom Brady 3 years in a row".
 
marino2duper73 said:
How many times did the Jets beat the Fins 52-45, 45-42, 38-35, 45-38.....It seemed like every game lol

Frikkin Al Toon and Johnny Hector.
Click to expand...

Don't use that argument. Geno ****in Smith put up a PERFECT QB rating against a recent Dolphins defense. We also got spanked by nearly every crappy QB the Bills trotted out there.
 
JTech194 said:
History will suggest no. Tanehill is not a top 10 QB and hasn't shown that he is capable of playing like one for a 4,5,6 game stretch. Before you give me Names like (Insert mediocre QB here) today's NFL is much different than it was then. Today's game is built around offense, the rules and style of play is geared to score points. What this means is that during a SB run, most likely at some point you will have to win a couple of shootouts, to expect a defense to shutdown opposing offenses throughout the playoffs is unreasonable. The offenses and QB's are just too good for that.

From what I've seen thus far from Tannehill, I don't trust him to win a shootout against the best QB's in the league that he'll surely face in the playoffs. I don't trust him to make the plays necessary without making a mistake. And before anyone throw Nick Foles's name out there. Whether we want to put him in the top 10 QB list or not.... over a 3-4 game stretch, he PLAYED like a top 10 QB. Some of those throws and plays he made in the games leading up to the SB and the SB itself was top 10 QB level. I don't see Tannehill doing that. But that's just my opinion based on what I've seen from TH thus far.
Click to expand...

So is it a 3 - 4 game stretch or a 4, 5, 6 game stretch?

Here is your 6 game stretch:

6 2016-10-16 6 28-081 MIA PIT W 30-15 * 24 32 75.00 252 0 0 97.4 0 0 7.88 7.88 2 3 1.50 0 0 0
7 2016-10-23 7 28-088 MIA BUF W 28-25 * 15 25 60.00 204 1 0 99.4 1 6 8.16 8.96 6 21 3.50 0 0 0
8 2016-11-06 8 28-102 MIA NYJ W 27-23 * 17 28 60.71 149 1 0 86.8 1 12 5.32 6.04 2 -3 -1.50 0 0 0
9 2016-11-13 9 28-109 MIA @ SDG W 31-24 * 17 24 70.83 240 2 0 130.6 1 9 10.00 11.67 3 16 5.33 0 0 0
10 2016-11-20 10 28-116 MIA @ LAR W 14-10 * 24 34 70.59 172 2 1 89.3 4 30 5.06 4.91 2 19 9.50 0 0 0
11 2016-11-27 11 28-123 MIA SFO W 31-24 * 20 30 66.67 285 3 0 130.6 2 22 9.50 11.50 6 34 5.67 0 0 0

9 TDs 1 INT, QB rating well over 100. 6- 0 record.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom