Well, I’m glad you brought it up, because it is most definitely a coincidence. The last 9-10 years haven’t been.. but when he was fetching coffee and making copies I promise you the Dolphins didn’t win a playoff game because of that.
Chris Perkins: Dolphins headed for mediocrity in 2025 before 2026 rebuild
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jg772006
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He actually does deserve some blame for his "pre-GM years". I worked as a scout for 2 years & worked in a personnel department for another year (at a college, not pro), before I moved on to sports videography. I know how it goes. During Grier's "pre-GM years" from 2001-2015 ... what "great" talent did he recommend that we bring in?
The only fair thing to say about Grier during those years, is that yes, the final decisions to choose (or not choose said players) wasn't up to him ... it was to whatever GM he was working under. But based on the history of the Dolphins over the last 25 years, and especially now looking at his 9 FAILED GM years currently, do I or any Dolphins fan have any reason to believe that he was doing a good job back during those years ... years where maybe, he was doing such an awful job judging talents, that maybe, JUST MAYBE, he had a hand in getting Spielman, Hickey, Ireland, & TanneBUM all fired before he took over?
Think about it. Think LONG and HARD about it. He ****ing SUCKS at his job ... and Im counting ALL his years ... and I guarantee, when he is fired from Miami finally, and hes looking for another front office job, teams wont be looking at "just his GM years". They will be looking at ALL HIS YEARS in Miami ... as they should.
You keep saying these things. Do you blame every scout over the last 25 years? Every intern?
Again, I agree that he needs to go. And I agree that over the past 9-10 years he’s been a MAJOR reason, the #1 reason for the Dolphins failures.
jg772006
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They certainly deserve some blame, because they make the recommendations on what talent to go after, after they make they judgements & analysis' ... the final decisions come from the GM based on THEIR recommendations. GMs obviously will get the most blame for the decisions they make (good or bad) ... but scouts are certainly culpable to, to a certain extent.
YEEESSS!! You’re finally there. “The final decisions come from the GM.”
When I was a LCpl and gave my Sgt some advice it was 100% his call what to do. If he took my advice, and it failed, he paid the price and took the blame.
Sometimes my dog thinks it would be great to jump in the creek behind my house after a heavy rain. I don’t let him off the leash and jump in. If I did let him jump in, and he drowned, I would get the blame. And rightfully so.
Grier is no more to blame for the Dolphins woes before he was GM than my dog would be if I let him jump in the creek.
jg772006
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Look, I dont want to continue this pissing contest ... but just know, I DO see what youre saying. Youre right Grier desevres MASSIVE blame for the last 9 yrs. We agree there.
But he is certainly culpable "TO AN EXTENT" for the previous 15 yrs he's been in this front office. Again ... 24 years since our last playoff win, "concurrent" with Grier's entire 24 year tenure in the Phins front office. Again, its not hard to understand ... hes the ONLY ONE in the organization that can say that.
Whether you fault him or not, for just 10 yrs or all 24 hes been here for (I choose all 24) ... hes been the biggest **** STAIN in this organization during this entire drought, and Miami wont begin "healing" until he is finally shown the door.
Ray R
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How much is he paying you for "digging" lessons? - LOL
By the way, your attempt to "move the goal posts" has just failed miserably. - LOL
Ray R
Club Member
Great response, but I fear it may be "over the head" of those who would benefit most from understanding it. - LOL
There is a lot here in your last paragraph that will appeal to brother @circumstances
If Grier is removed as GM, he will likely be “promoted” to another position within Ross’ organization.
No surprise your not smart enough to recognize reality.
Dumb
Move what goal posts? I have not wavered from my opinion that if the Dolphins don't at least win a playoff game this season then Grier, McDaniel & Tua should be gone in 2026. Grier has hired 3 head coaches during his time as GM & none of them have been able to win a single playoff game. McDaniel & Tua should be joined at the hip with Grier because if you want to have an extensive GM search you can't put a stipulation on candidates that they must keep the head coach and QB. As I have stated many times, if 2025 is a failure (no playoff win) then 2026 should be a reset year with a new GM & head coach aiming to draft a QB at the top of the 2027 draft.
Just because you are satisfied with mediocrity with the only hope being to see the team sneaking into the playoffs every year, doesn't mean other fans aren't striving for much more.
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How can a new HC win a playoff game in 3 years? You realize that the HC’s that have accomplished this are in the minority, right? And a lot that lasted more than 3 years tend to be great. Look up the history of some of you r favorite HC’s.
Are you drunk, again?